I mean this is completely irrational. Obviously US policy is disproportionately impacted by oligarchs but is what Palantir wants the same as what all billionaires want? What if they want different things? You can’t just pick the dumbest or most egregiously ghoulish thing a rich person said today and say “there! That’s the us policy!”

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty clear that large portions of the ruling class do in fact want these wars. If that wasn't the case then the oligarch owned media wouldn't be constantly drumming up support for these wars.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s pretty clear that large portions of the ruling class do in fact want cheap drugs. That’s why you see the oligarch owned media constantly drumming up support for lower drug costs by reporting on how expensive they are, and Mark Cuban has a website he says is cheaper.

Is that what all billionaires want? Is it accurate? It’s the same standard. It’s not that you’re wrong about what a lot of rich US ghouls want. It’s that your argument is lazy and dishonest. You can be right AND not tout Palantir as a source of anything other than bullshit!

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The oligarch owned media never actually provides any tangible solutions for lowering drug costs last I checked. It reports on the drug prices being high in the context of capitalist realism. For example, you'll never see US media suggest that drug production should be nationalized.

Palantir gives us a windows into what people running it are advocating. Reading and understanding what they say doesn't mean endorsement, it means being aware of what these people are about. This whole idea liberals have that all problems can be solved by simply sticking your head in the sand is really not working out well last I checked.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You’re moving the goalposts. Before it’s fully sufficient for a billionaire to say it, then it has to be billionaires and the media, and now they have to also be proposing specific types of solutions for it to count. I’m just curious exactly what counts as US national policy and what doesn’t. And last I checked “circlejerking about what Palantir says” isn’t working out great either.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Before it’s fully sufficient for a billionaire to say it

Nobody said this but you

then it has to be billionaires and the media

They are one and the same, a body speaks with it's mouth and a ruling class speaks with it's media

ciclrejerking about what Palantir says

We aren't the ones running articles in Fortune Magazine

I refuse to believe you're too dense to grasp the relationship between capital, the media and the state in a country where money rules all. You're clearly pretending not to understand.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Do I need to get you the link to the article about Biden's request IN MARCH that the military start planning for a coordinated nuclear threat from China, Russia, and Korea? Or can you find it yourself.