Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2024
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Defederate them for having a different political worldview? Defederation is supposed to be for extreme circumstances. There's not a problem that .ml communities cause of people breaking the rules here. I'm not saying there aren't toxic people from lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.ml, there definitely are, but there's nothing to justify defederation.
If instances just start defederating other instances for hosting a lot of communists then the platform's gonna fall apart lol.
You can block instances if you don't like them. You don't have to decide what the best experience for all us other lemm.ee users is.
Oh wow thats so fucking wrong, lemmy.ml is run by the same admins as lemmygrad, that goes for most mods as well, they are basically red faschism, thats not a different opinion, thats straight up illigal shit in many places and defederation is a great option to filter out illigal stuff. Both .ml instances have regular posts that violate EU laws, especially regarding genocide denial and screaming genocide about things that very obviously are not.
Look, I don't know the federation rules of ani.social. But our instance, lemm.ee, has defederated literally only 3 instances. IIRC 2 of them are borderline CSAM instances, and the other one is threads.net. The instance intentionally has lenient rules on this stuff – defederation doesn't happen unless there's a massive issue of rule-breaking in lemm.ee caused by the other instance (e.g. spam/brigading) which can't be resolved with diplomacy between admins. Hence defederation being considered the last resort.
Also I'm not so sure about the claim that denying the Uyghur genocide and saying they think certain other things are genocide (don't know what you're referring to here though) is illegal in the EU.
We defederated nothing but the .ml bouble including Hexbear defederated us because we apparently have something to do with child porn, NSFW is literally not allowed here...
And genocide denial is illegal in Germany, many other EU countries followed that, but the majority of instances host with Hezner, wich has servers in Germany, so its legally problematic for EU hosted instances. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-criminalizes-denying-war-crimes-genocide/a-63834791
Lemmy.ml also Spams the modlog and have been reported to engage in problematic federation actions. Hexbear is also Brigading a lot and lemmygrad is literally denying the holocaust from time to time.
Huh. Well considering the actions of the German government this past year, I doubt they'll be doing much about genocide denial this time around.
This alleged holocaust denial though... you've piqued my interest. Lemmygrad, being an extremely communist instance, is almost always vocal about how the Nazis did a lot of genocide. It'd be weird for that to be there without immediately being removed by mods. Do you have any examples or quotes, perchance? I haven't had a particularly good experience with lemmygrad users on average, but this would definitely take the cake.
As for Hexbear brigading, that actually was apparently an issue for lemm.ee a long time ago. But the admins talked with the hexbear admins and were able to get it resolved. At least, on lemm.ee communities, hexbear users seem to be following the rules – usually it's lemmy.world users breaking the rules sitewide (usually for transphobia, very recently some prominent users there were promoting pedophilia). But I think lemm.ee doesn't ban users much regardless unless they're extraordinarily uncivil and cartoonishly evil. There's not even a modlog that I can find (pretty weird not to have a mod log).
Lemmygrad doesn't deny the nazis did the holocaust, no. But they do deny that Jews were systematically killed in WW2 by the Soviet Union. They do deny that the Soviet Union assisted Nazi Germany in gathering Jews.
There is evidence of this across this community, which you may search for at your leisure.
This is double genocide theory, and it's a form of holocaust denial.
Oh yeah? Want to explain how? Because the Soviet Union also contributed to killing jews.
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Oh wow no thanks blocked.
I restored your comments. No idea why they were removed as they aren't in the modlog. Did your instance admins remove them for some reason?
...? I'm confused. Is ani.social a Nazi/anti-Palestine instance? I've had a total of 2 interactions with people from there mentioning Germany denying Israeli war crimes, and both of those people happened to be pro-ethnostate and immediately went the genocide denial route. I guess weebs on Lemmy are just as conservative as weebs on Reddit or something
Edit: Oh, it's mostly porn/erotic content and talking about erotic content in anime... so it's literally just the Reddit anime communities, but on the fediverse. Welp, that's enough Lemmy for today