Technology

59587 readers

2940 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

Follow the lemmy.world rules.
Only tech related content.
Be excellent to each another!
Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
Politics threads may be removed.
No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

AI Music Generator Suno Admits It Was Trained on ‘Essentially All Music Files on the Internet’ (www.404media.co)

submitted 3 months ago by hotpot8toe@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

163 comments fedilink hide all child comments

"Suno’s training data includes essentially all music files of reasonable quality that are accessible on the open internet."

"Rather than trying to argue that Suno was not trained on copyrighted songs, the company is instead making a Fair Use argument to say that the law should allow for AI training on copyrighted works without permission or compensation."

Archived (also bypass paywall): https://archive.ph/ivTGs

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the argument is that it's not actually copying it and instead learning from it.

It's not learning, though.

Saying that these models have learnt the data they've been built with is akin to saying a zip file has learned the data it's storing.

It's not AI or anything remotely resembling AI, it's just a new form of storage that's very good at classifying the data that's been stored in it and retrieving stored data that shares similar classification properties.

Its only difference from straight up copying are the classifications it builds. Whether that's transformative enough to count as fair use, though, is open to debate.

If you make a software that takes random pictures off the web and randomly makes collages out of them, would it be fair use? Would those collages be copyrightable?

Whatever you answer should be your same answer for these models (I believe current copyright law would say that the software is copyrightable, but its works aren't, and don't fall under fair use, but I might be wrong).

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago

A collage would be fair use, yes I believe that's already been established but again I'm not like a copyright lawyer or anything like that. I'll leave that for others to research and prove in the courtroom.

I would say that your first example, as it file is not really accurate but the collage may be more so. It's a statistical model that calculates statistically what a thing should be. Is it learning? Maybe maybe not.