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AI Music Generator Suno Admits It Was Trained on ‘Essentially All Music Files on the Internet’ (www.404media.co)

submitted 2 months ago by hotpot8toe@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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"Suno’s training data includes essentially all music files of reasonable quality that are accessible on the open internet."

"Rather than trying to argue that Suno was not trained on copyrighted songs, the company is instead making a Fair Use argument to say that the law should allow for AI training on copyrighted works without permission or compensation."

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because fair use is an affirmative defense to copyright infringement. To use a fair use defense you have to admit your work is infringing, but argue that the infringement is justifiable.

Trying to defend the AI with fair use requires you to admit the AI itself is infringing, but justifiable, and by the doctrine of fair use, it is almost certainly not.

Only humans can hold copyrights. Your example would be a non-infringing work because it lacks direct copying. An AI doing the same would make an uncopyrightable work, with the AI itself being infinging if you tried the fair use defense.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only humans can hold copyrights.

Yeah, no. Most copyrighted material is owned by companies, you don't have to be a natural person to hold copyrights. And if a company can hold copyrights, you can also argue it can have fair use.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Companies are run by people. The human employees create copyrighted works that become the property of their employer by the terms of their contract. That's how work for hire contracts work....

You would know this if you have ever worked in any creative field.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

I work in a creative field. But companies are companies. If I work for a company and create something, it doesn't belong to a natural person, it immediately goes over to the company.

Not the CEO or CTO or whoever is in management, it belongs to the legal entity. Isn't this a company owning the work I just created? If the CEO dies, the company still owns it.