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AI Music Generator Suno Admits It Was Trained on ‘Essentially All Music Files on the Internet’ (www.404media.co)
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"Suno’s training data includes essentially all music files of reasonable quality that are accessible on the open internet."

"Rather than trying to argue that Suno was not trained on copyrighted songs, the company is instead making a Fair Use argument to say that the law should allow for AI training on copyrighted works without permission or compensation."

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think you have to abolish hierarchical society first. Which I also think should be done. But if you get rid of rules protecting creative endeavors before getting rid of the shitheel corporations it gets rid of creative endeavor more than it gets rid of the corporate bastards. The problem with copyright as it stands is how much the corporate bastards have twisted it over time to benefit them instead of the collective us.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to abolish hierarchy, you just have to de-tangle work from sustenance-level resource distribution. A UBI sufficient for living would be enough. Even providing universal housing and reducing the workweek would help.

Copyright simply makes creative work profitable, but profit isn't necessarily a prerequisite for creative work.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh my desire to abolish hierarchical society is... Pretty core to who I am lol. So there was some bias in that. Yeah there's ways to make get rid of copyright, still have professions, and still have a hierarchy, but at a certain point you're building a gentler form of capitalism instead of treating people with the true respect and dignity they deserve. I'm willing to accept I'm pretty radical on this particular set of views.

Also yes. Everyone should get UBI and the billionaires pockets should be where we get the money from

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago

I guess my point is that retaining copyright isn't necessarily dependent on abolishing hierarchies altogether. People imagine it would take a complete re-imagining of our economy to abolish copyright (and it isn't a small thing, to be sure), but it's honestly less intensive than most people think.

Especially since most of the economic value of copyright is held by large corporations, not private individuals.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

rules protecting creative endeavors

that's not what copyright does.