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Mashable reports that users ran into a black screen on YouTube, and that it stayed for about 6 seconds before the video began playing. The reports indicate it affected several browsers including Firefox, Edge, Vivaldi.

Some users joked that they would rather see a black screen than an ad. While that's certainly a better experience, it does waste precious seconds of our time. A simple workaround for the black screen on YouTube is to just refresh the page, hit F5 as soon as the page starts loading. uBlock Origin's filters were updated with a patch to resolve the problem, the add-on updates its filters automatically. If you are still experiencing the black screen issue, just open the extension's dashboard and manually update the filters. This tug-of-war is getting annoying, but it appears to me that Google's efforts are actively promoting the use of ad blockers, instead of attracting new subscribers.

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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I'm seeing a lot of comments about Youtube frontends. Don't get me wrong. They're nice and all, but we need some alternatives. At this point in time. We have two of them Odysee & Rumble. If you're tried of Youtube's bullshit. Alternatives are the way to go.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yt-dlp is also a great alternative, since you can just stuff it into the backend of something like jellyfin and have it work.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

it's a backend, the front end would be something like jellyfin, obviously the shitpost here being that this was a topic about frontends, if you want my opinion though, all frontends are dead, and backends are where it's at. You can even integrate yt-dlp as a backend to something like VLC so that it operates as a real frontend.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

not technically a fronted. however, if you use it mainly for downloading YT content, it will run into the same problem as many frontends.

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

No? It downloads the videos. Your video player is the "frontend".

[–] DPEWGF@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Sadly, too large to die. 99% of content creators willl stick to what the majority use. I'm just using Grayjay (Android) & Invidious (desktop) to watch all my content.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 0 points 3 months ago

there is also peertube which is fedirated

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I think its important to highlight that Odysee and Rumble are both "free speech" platforms that neo-nazis love to use to platform their calls for violence.

[–] rami@ani.social 0 points 3 months ago

Here's a few more in a reddit thread.

I thought Odyssey was just gun nuts? When did the shitters get there?

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

What does neo-nazi mean to you?

The reason I ask. I see that word get thrown around on social media (twitter) all the time. The way I see that used 99% of the time. Some Left Winger sees a Right Winger say something they don't like. The Left Winger can't counter it or they just don't like that Right Winger said. So the Left Winger calls the Right Winger the worst thing they can think of.

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While I largely agree with your point, as an Odysee user myself I know there is a visible amount of actual Neo-Nazi content there. That said, such channels are not difficult to block on the user end on the platform so you don't see them after the first time, there's not so much that it's a constant annoyance, and there is still plenty of worthwhile content on Odysee to watch, including various YouTubers who mirror their content to the platform. While the Neo-Nazi content is harder to find on Rumble, it's more politically focused and feels like it's more meant to be "right-wing YouTube" whereas you can actually find more of a variety of viewpoints on Odysee.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What does neo-nazi mean to you?

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Actual anti-semitic, fascist, racist people and groups who support the ideology of Nazi Germany and use Nazi symbols and iconography to support their cause. Actual white supremacists. Not every conservative or even most conservatives or MAGA Trump supporters. The real right-wing loons.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Thank you for answering my question.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

They always say “says something they don’t like” but in reality what they are saying is trans people are pedos and should die, that’s not an opinion, that’s a call for violence dude. Go fuck yourself and fuck your feelings

[–] Senal@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

Do you have an example of this ?

[–] mbtrhcs@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago

Some Left Winger sees a Right Winger say something they don't like. The Left Winger can't counter it

Many right wing positions are very easy to counter with scientific evidence– climate change, crime rates, public health policy, social programs...

So if you think the "Left Winger" can't counter it.. do you not consider evidence-based arguments to be legitimate?

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There are a number of examples I can give but the immediately most obvious that springs to mind is Mark Collett, who can be seen in this picture with his ex-girlfriend who has a large visible swastika tattoo.

The British Movement, formerly known as the British National Socialist Movement also have a presence on both sites. One of their primary catch phrases is, "No more brother wars." which refers to WW2 as a war between different sects of the "Aryan race". It means that those sects should not be fighting each other but instead non-white people and Jewish people.

As I say, I can point to more but I think those give you the picture. I should probably also add that its a common quippy clap-back for these types to say "so... huh... everyone you disagree with is a Nazi" themselves. The function of this is to muddy the waters and propagandise the questioning of whether or not their ideology is as bad as those who directly oppose them state. It means that they get to spread their ideas by a proxy to onlookers.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lemmy is also a "free speech" platform. Yet, we're all still here.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's a big difference between a protocol (what you refer to as Lemmy is actually a protocol called ActivityPub) and a centralized organization (Odyssee). Many / most Lemmy instances will ban Nazi posts, many also defederating from instances which allow them. However, the fact that it's a protocol means it's still free speech. This is IMO a very good system to have, and emulates real world free speech dynamics.

Odyssee, however, allowing Nazi stuff is not okay since they are not a protocol. They're the equivalent of a Lemmy instance. Lots of people are against Hexbear, for example, myself included.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Neo-Nazis use Lemmy as a platform for their calls to violence?

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

I know they use Mastodon to do it. Truth Social runs on the Mastodon software.

[–] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure the fediverse is VERY left-leaning lmao

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It is. Which makes it even weirder that black people have a horrible experience on Fedi with loads of racist harassment.

although to be fair, that is just what's going to happen.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 3 months ago

New platforms get the fringe content first, because the vanilla content can happily use the old incumbents.

[–] moe90@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago

lack of content and engagement are the main issue and Youtube reign top because of that