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[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Why don't you care about any of the people in America? If you think the parties are the same on foreign policy but the Democrats are better on all the thing I mentioned, doesn't that still mean the Democrats are less terrible? I agree that they're terrible on foreign policy and bad for the global south, and I would very much like to have an option that wasn't, but I don't, do I? I have to chose between the options given, and as bad as they are they're clearly the less bad option.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Why don't you care about any of the people in America?

As a disabled person living off federal benefits, with a transgender girlfriend living in a red state, I'm literally got skin in the game personally, so don't tell me that I don't care about people living in America. The problem is there is an active genocide going on and the Biden adminstration, including Kamala, are supporting it.

If you think the parties are the same on foreign policy but the Democrats are better on all the thing I mentioned, doesn't that still mean the Democrats are less terrible?

I dont think they are materially better on the things you mentioned on the federal level as I mentioned in another post. The best they've done is nice sounding words. Another thing you forgot to mention btw is immigration, on which Biden has somehow managed to be materailly worse than Trump lmao. So theres that too.

and I would very much like to have an option that wasn't, but I don't, do I? I have to chose between the options given, and as bad as they are they're clearly the less bad option.

You have options that aren't that and they all involve doing literally any political thing other than voting. I literally don't care if you decide to vote for Kamala, especially if you live in a swing state. Just please, god, take your eye off electorialism because it won't save us.

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Doing other things than voting doesn't stop you from voting. It takes 5 minutes every couple years. It is literally the least you can do. It doesn't magically prevent all other action though. And serious, how can you not understand even after RvW that doing nothing is still better for you than what the Republicans will do. You're right, at the national level if the Democrats gain power they won't do anything at all, and that is massively better than the alternative. It's not rocket science.

[–] MaeBorowski@hexbear.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And serious, how can you not understand even after RvW that doing nothing is still better for you than what the Republicans will do.

The republicans do it anyway!! The republicans do what they want, the democrats allow them to while raking in donations by telling everyone how mean the republicans are! It's not that the democrats are better because they don't do bad things but republicans do, it's that they are both parts of the same machine that does these things, playing their respective roles! How can you be so fucking blind as not see the blatant "good cop/bad cop" routine for what it is?? And yet you are calling other people morons (ableist language by the way, asshole) for trying to get this very obvious reality through to you!

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

It is correct that the Democrats raking in the money for doing nothing by pointing out what the Republicans would do if they gained power. They're not wrong though. Republicans would do those things, and as long as we don't let anyone who is actively threatening to do them win an election they won't happen. If it happens for long enough eventually the Republicans will either get sick of losing and give up on those things or fade into irrelevance and the Democrats will split. They don't care what we want, but they do care about power, so making the things they want incompatible with gaining power is the only way to defeat them. Don't feed me defeatist do nothing bullshit and call it activism.

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