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The shady world of Brave selling copyrighted data for AI training (stackdiary.com)
submitted 1 year ago by leraje@lemmy.world to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one
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From the article:

"I know for a fact that Wikipedia operates under a CC BY-SA 4.0 license, which explicitly states that if you're going to use the data, you must give attribution. As far as search engines go, they can get away with it because linking back to a Wikipedia article on the same page as the search results is considered attribution.

But in the case of Brave, not only are they disregarding the license - they're also charging money for the data and then giving third parties "rights" to that data."

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[–] ImmaculateTaint@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is this only referring to the Brave search engine?

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it is designed by their company. Their products represent their leadership.

Firefox and DDG for me.

[–] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I honestly just started cracking up after seeing DDG mentioned after those initial 2 sentences.

DuckDuckGo does not care about your privacy. Switch to SearX, StartPage, or Kagi.

[–] glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

What makes you say DDG does not care about privacy?

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't start page get taken over by an advertising company?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

System1. Here's a discussion about it.

I still fluctuate between using Startpage and public SearXNG instances myself, but I have mixed feelings about Startpage.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the links. It looks like they engaged, but it is a little waffley, and it doesn't exactly explain why they purchased them and where they see the ROI. If they are investing capital, they would need a return to make it profitable. It didn't touch of whether they were after ad space without data (non targetted which isn't worth a lot less, but may guarantee real estate), or a paid for service where Startpage will generate it's own profits from services. Without further clarification, it doesn't sit comfortably.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I have the same concerns. There's got to be some reason they invested, and no matter how much they claim it doesn't impact privacy, I don't trust any ad agency whatsoever. Their whole business is deception and lies.

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What instance of searx are you using? Is ononoki a good instance, please don't tell me to host my own, because I don't have the budget for it.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't tried ononoki, but the one I use is https://searx.tiekoetter.com/

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the link, I'll try this one.