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A Russian kamikaze drone on Wednesday flew into NATO air space and detonated near a Romanian village, Ukrainian news reports said, but official Bucharest said the fact of the strike wasn’t confirmed and that they would check.

Ukrainian social media video recorded in the river port city of Izmail, opposite Plaura, showed an orange flash lighting up the night horizon and a booming blast on the Romanian side of the river. Flames and smoke reaching hundreds of meters into the sky were visible following the explosion. A Russian kamikaze drone strike against Izmail had been in progress at the time.

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[–] Zabjam@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nearly a decade since they took it from Ukraine. So the solution to avoid war is handing Russia all territory they want? Where does that stop? At the polish border? At the German border? French border? At the Atlantic?

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The point here is that you don't even know the basic facts you're talking about. Russia didn't want Crimea in 2022; they already had it.

It's also laughable -- genuinely embarrassing -- to suggest Russia is trying to conquer all of Europe. Pure fantasy plucked straight out of thin air.

As for deterrence, that's already been accomplished, especially if you believe the casualty numbers Ukranian propaganda puts out. Clearly there is a cost to war. The goal now is to end the fighting on as favorable of terms as you can realistically get.

[–] Zabjam@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, they had it in 2022 because they wanted it in 2014 when they took it from the sovereign country of Ukraine.

And I am not suggesting anything, I was asking where they will stop after conquering Crimea and currently trying to conquer Ukraine. So, where will they stop - if at all?

I think different parties have different goals in this war. And in general I think the goal of a sovereign country, to stay sovereign within their own borders is not an illegitimate goal.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, they had it

You were wrong and are doubling down instead of acknowledging that maybe there are some gaps in your knowledge.

And I am not suggesting anything

And you're trying to walk back ridiculous fear mongering (where will they stop??? the Atlantic????) instead of acknowledging that Russia isn't going to start invading the whole planet for no reason.

[–] Zabjam@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Ah damn it. Didn't see which instance this was posted to. Never mind