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Soo, booting your computer from someone else's computer?
I mean we've had thin clients and PXE for ages?
More being able to use cloud storage and not need a physical computer. In theory the cloud can be accessed anywhere, even if a portion is down, not the same for a single physical PC.
is the non physical cloud in the room right now?
Google redundancy.
Nope! That's the point. It's in someone else's room!
Are you going to access The Cloud telepathically?
The cloud is many computers with a redundancy, you putting multiple PCs in remote locations so you can access when one goes down….?
Yes I understand how The Cloud works...?
Okay so you should comprehend how multiple “computers” allow a redundancy over a single one.
Yeah….?
You can’t access a remote physical computer without internet either? So what’s your point here?
I don't have a point. Just asked a question.
I do, clearly you don’t if you need to ask the question.
So what are you doing here exactly? You’re not adding to the discussion, so that would make you a troll, no?
My guy, I'm not the one making non-sense statements and then refusing to answer questions about them. You're the troll.
What is so hard to understand about one needing two full physical computers, while one needs a single full physical computer?
I did answer and the statement wasn’t nonsense. What’s hard to understand about the difference between two and one…?
One has redundancy and one doesn’t… not shockingly they are different things for this reason…..
You said you could access the cloud with zero computers.
I did? Where? I said you can still access one when a portion is down unlike the other. How does that mean zero?
Did you seriously make a joke while not even reading or understanding my comment? Or did you reply to the wrong person originally? That would make you the troll, no?
The joke is about what exactly you're doing with the cloud with no physical computer in front of you.
Why is there a “joke” here?
Clearly some people don’t understand how a cloud infrastructure which is multiple “computers” is vastly different than a single individual “PC” which has ZERO redundancy….
You aren’t one of these idiots are you…?
Because you said "not need a physical computer". If there is no physical computer, with what device are you accessing the cloud?
Because the cloud is not one single “computer” to call it a PC would be incorrect, hence my distinction. It’s not even a full computer, it’s usually a bank of particular components.
Why do you need this explained to you…?
There is no joke here, just morons like you who don’t comprehend the difference between a personal computer which is a self contained entity, and the cloud, which is a conglomeration of components.
The joke here is you and your lack of understanding apparently…
No one is arguing against its redundancy. We are saying you still need your own physical device to access the cloud. Whether its a computer, phone, or anything else. That was the joke.
Yes a device… why did you need to clarify a device instead of a PC…? Maybe your joke isn’t actually that funny and you apparently needed to change the definition to make it work…?
The joke is the intelligence on the topic here apparently, your explanation killed the stupid joke that was apparently attempted here. Lmfao.
Traditional computing involves a computer on a desk. If everything is in the cloud, and there is no physical computer, then there is nothing on the desk. How do you access the cloud with a bare desk? That is the joke. Presumably you meant that there is no singular server, and a deliberate misinterpretation like the other commenter's is a form of humor (Brône, 2008).
The fact that another user said you needed a “device” instead of a PC shows how stupid the joke was…. I used different terms to differentiate the two. Yet pedants apparently still need to make idiots of themselves….
So which is it…? A PC…? Computer…? Device…? I used two different terms to differentiate between the two to have conversation, fuck off with your stupid “jokes”. Thats what trolls do, are you adding conversation? Or are you derailing it because you have nothing better to do…?
Sometimes deliberate misinterpretation can be used as a linguistic device (Wang, 2008). Perhaps you consider that trolling or derailing, but regardless of whether or not you appreciate the joke, to continue in the thread does not contribute to a productive discussion.
One study found that troll-like responses "deviate from expectations" and "easily capture unsuspecting users’ attention and manage to prolong futile conversations interminably" (Paakki, 2021). Perhaps it is your comments that deviate from community expectations and are prolonging futile conversations? Does it count as trolling if it's not intentional? Appendix 1 shares the author's criteria, so I suppose you can try applying them yourself.
Personally, I'm finding this interaction positively fascinating. I'm a little disappointed I couldn't easily find a more relevant analysis on linguistic humor, but that article by Henna Paakki actually looks really interesting. I highly recommend reading it, I'm only halfway through the introduction and I'm already hooked. For me, it's absolutely been productive. I'm going to print that paper out and make it some night reading. Thanks!
I specified in my original comment about a full secondary computer being a requirement already. So no, your joke is moronic considered the established context of the conversation. Using the clue doesn’t require a full secondary computer. Did you miss this key detail in my original comment or something……?
Jokes can be appreciated in conversation, but not when they miss the original context…. I was clear in my original comment, so yeah fuck off with this “joke” bullshit, I was trying to have a conversation. All you are doing is being a troll here, especially when the joke just actually doesn’t fucking work…
How is it a joke when you clearly misunderstood my original comment?
Do thin clients and PXE require a server specifically configured to serve a boot image? (Genuinely asking.)
I'm not sure whether this project is doing something new by just accessing network resources that are nothing more than shared files, without any specific software running on the server (beyond just a server serving files).
Yes, they do. The novel thing here is serving the files out of Google Drive.
There are existing PXE servers that run over the Internet, like boot.netboot.xyz, so that you don't have to run your own (assuming you trust everyone involved in that connection). Those are far more practical.
And bootp before that, and tftp before that. So I think roughly... 35 years?
PXE specifically uses tftp doesn't it?
yep