Also, the policy is what matters. What matters is also that Biden obviously was doing the right thing. Just because he doesn't scream at people doesn't mean he's not a good choice still.

Whereas Trump was clearly obviously lying constantly

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The real travesty was CNN here. There was no fact checking or the slightest attempt to keep them on topic.

I'd vote for a wet park bench over Trump. Biden was and still is the "Not Trump" candidate.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Trump wouldn't have agreed if the mods were going to been anything but prompt readers

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, FWIW, Biden actually talked about expanding stuff like drug price caps to save the government shitloads of money while also saving Americans money as well. Stuff like taxing people making over 400k a year only, lead pipe abatement, funding the ACA more, giving Ukraine the aid it needs to slap the dogshit out of russia, etc etc.

If I had no idea about either president, at leask I know what Biden's future promises are and what he told us he got done in the past four years, even if he did have some sections where he kind of mucked up like this kid did.

Trump, while sounding more coherent vocally, was entirely all over the place with Afghanistan and immigrants bad (no plan?), and somehow he's going to win the war in Ukraine and bring the WSJ reporter home, for free, before he's even elected in just under five months. Oh, and apparently, he hopes he won't die before then, though he didn't sound so sure about that last night.

If I was an uninformed voter, I'd be like "Damn, biden is old, but at least he has a plan and a good team judging off his pretty amazing track record" capping insulin at $35 a mo instead of $400 is fucking awesome, not to mention the other drugs too. The massive investment in the US economy was also nice. Battery plants in Georgia, chip fabs across the country, fixing infrastructure cia the bipartisan infrastructure plan...all great stuff.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Biden said after "it's hard to win a debate against a liar".

If you've ever argued with someone on Facebook, it's the same. Because it doesn't matter what you say, they'll simply claim you are lying and it's easy to make up bullshit. Coming up with facts, supporting them and recalling your policies is a lot harder.

Whereas, Trump doesn't need to worry about his policies. He just makes them up and throws in racism.

Trump wanted everyone to know he is a racism piece of shit. If anything, that was his only policy . I've never seen someone be so racist

What's weird is that you hear Biden on different mics soon after, he sounded fine, so I think the mics may have needed adjusting too. But maybe the rules dictated both levels were the same or something

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago

I think he really just had to get his rhythm going. Biden was never really a terrific public speaker even at the best of times (Or Obama was just like, absolutely world-class). He did get his promises out, though.

At the end of the day, Biden could have just twerked on stage for 100 min, and I still would have voted for him, as long as he has a plan for the next four years. He's actually gotten a shocking amount of good stuff done for the average american, though some of it, like rebuilt bridges, high tech factories and prescription caps, might be years away before we reap the full benefits.