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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I was having a conversation in another thread a few days ago about the legality of completely fictional AI child porn and how that may be a safer outlet for those individuals as it involves no harm.

It's legal in many countries, but also not legal in many countries.

In the USA, federal law says as long as its not obscene or has serious value its allowed, but really, good luck with those clauses. Then it says, it's also legal unless it's been transmitted by a common carrier, e.g mail, internet.

So, someone might be legally making their own CP so they don't need to cause any abuse, and then Windows without their permission, uploads it to OneDrive.

You know the person making fictional CP would be the one thrown in jail for transmitting it over a common carrier, but maybe we should throw Microsoft in jail for doing that without permission and fucking us all over, over and over and over again with all this bullshit

They're literally stealing your files. They're probably training their AI on anything uploaded to OneDrive. It's not like they even prompted you or gave you the ToS.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"fictional AI CP" isn't a thing. AI is trained on existing data. It does not create new stuff. If you want AI to generate CP then you have to train it on CP.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

AI can create faces and bodies that have never existed. From there it might just take a lot of prompt engineering, but to say you have to train it on CP is false.

Edit: Also that's only considering life like CP. There's the whole cartoon/manga side of things which IS purely fictional at all times but will get you sent to prison if transmitted over an open carrier.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Can create faces that have never existed, but can you guarantee that the child in a CP that it has created does not look identical to a child that already exists? after all it can very well produce something using children directly from or very similar to its training set.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The same way the pictures of ninja dinosaurs can only be trained on actual photos of ninja dinosaurs, right?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Can we throw a slice of pizza in there?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

yea well there is no way to guarantee that AI wont spew out CP where the child there looks exactly like a child that it has seen in its training set, i.e a child that really exists. so no go