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[–] filoria@lemmy.ml 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Taiwan has a right to defend itself if it chooses to.

[–] filoria@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

With US troops?

Ukraine has a right to defend itself, but US troops are not deployed in Ukraine.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I'm talking about Taiwan, but Ukrainians are defending themselves with American weapons, intelligence and training.

I believe it was released that there are 14 special force members in Ukraine as well.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Green Berets are the army's spec ops that focus on training foreign fighters, specially chosen for things like foreign language proficiency. They're not Rangers or general light infantry. Ideally they're not really supposed to get into direct combat, as they're rather time consuming and difficult to replace.

I would bet a whole bunch of money that we actually do have Green Berets present in Ukraine as well, though the only people that would know that for sure would be the US govt, the Ukrainians and probably Russian intelligence.

If the 101st Airborne gets deployed to Taiwan, then I'd be worried.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Green Berets are just as worrying. It means US is training locals, preparing for yet another proxy war or brutal crackdown on any real or potential opposition against place being subjugated to US empire.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If they didn't want them, they could just ask them to leave. If the leader disagreed, the people could vote for a different leader.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

How'd that work out for Australia and Gough Whitlam trying to close Pine Gap?

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

First link: Members of A Company, so you're looking at 100 people maximum and likely less. Not exactly a large fighting force.

Second link: There's nothing "quiet" about it. It's been blaring on Western News non-stop for about 6 years now. The US has been completely open about weapons sales and training schedules.

Third link: We gave President Tsai Ing-Wen a medal. Okay, and?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The NED is notorious for basically being a CIA cut-out

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago

It’s amazing that this gets any downvotes at all.

Washington Post 1991: Innocence Abroad: the New World of Spyless Coups

"A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA," agrees [NED cofounder Allen] Weinstein.

New York Times, 1997: Political Meddling by Outsiders: Not New for U.S.

The National Endowment for Democracy, created 15 years ago to do in the open what the Central Intelligence Agency has done surreptitiously for decades, spends $30 million a year to support things like political parties, labor unions, dissident movements and the news media in dozens of countries, including China.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

not a fighting force

Genuine question, I know tone is hard to read online but I promise I'm not trying to be snarky: do you know the role that special forces in general and green berets in particular play in US proxy wars? They don't fight, they raise and train local militias how to do insurgency and kill political enemies. Anytime green berets are in a country next door to an enemy of the US empire, it's because they're training the next ARVN, Taliban or Azov Battalion.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

Not exactly a large fighting force

they're not there to hold down a trench

[–] Chump@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

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