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Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Voting doesn't really matter, though.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It absolutely does though. You can’t elect worker ownership of the means of production but you sure can elect anything from fascists to social democrats. I for one don’t want fascists to control my government

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If progressive policies were ever put into place by an elected body, it was always merely a by-product of already established social consensus formed by bottom-up politics.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I fully agree. But people get better things. Not voting means they don’t. Not voting means the people who want worse things get what they want

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

With electoralism, people get complacent with watered down reforms and become politically alienated.

[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

But media controls people

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks at US supreme court

Id beg to differ dumbass.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The US supreme court isn't even a democratically legitimized body. Why do you want to take the high road if reactionaries clearly don't care for the rules?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Go to your local library and read a book. Any book.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Hey guys, plowing this field won't feed you, we should just gather."

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

Nice strawman, homie.

[–] klisklas@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it doesn't matter, why are so many people afraid when the right wing parties take control? If it's not important why are people so concerned about the supreme Court? Why are women so scared of anti abortion legislation? You vote the legislative and they can simply take the power away from your social movements. So in the end, it does matter.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

Voting should not be the main strategy to fight for liberty and progressive change, since the cards in electoralism are way too stacked in favour of the already powerful minority. That's what I meant with "voting is not important".

When Trump lost the last election, MAGA-heads were ready to take up arms against what they considered an injustice. Why aren't progressives ready to do so? How does the "vote blue no matter who" crowd prepare against another Jan 6th situation?