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[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The developer worked his ass off to repurpose his app to Lemmy for us.

I was more than happy to pay for his time. Hard work deserves reward. If people aren't going to pay him and use the free version, which you're welcome to, then he makes his money from ads (which pay fuck-all)

You're just a bunch of cheapskates who want to be entertained for nothing.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ya went a little too far at the end there. nothing wrong with not wanting to pay a subscription fee lol. its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Complaining about a $20 purchase you don't have to make qualifies for "cheapskate" I think. Simply not purchasing it, or not wanting to purchase it, is fine. The difference is entitlement.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I think the point of this post was the lack of regional pricing, so for them it is not a $20 purchase.

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

Do you think professional independent developers shouldn't be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

I don't understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It's a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

This isn't some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can't make an app if you can't buy food or pay rent.

And if you don't like that, then don't use it. He's never pressured users into paying, and he's never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn't even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

Why is everyone so upset?

[–] jebuz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the reason lemmy is struggling, it's mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

FOSS is elitism?

[–] tigull@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is everyone so upset?

You know why, it's because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sync isn't trying to replace all Lemmy frontends or other FOSS apps, it's trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

People just find reasons to be upset, I swear.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago

it’s trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

Ads and all 🤣

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the one who's upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate. It's just that when you said this:

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

...in context, it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

I understand what you mean now, but you worded it terribly.

And by the way, going around in the comments being unnecessarily hostile and calling people "dumbfuck" or "asshole," when they were just as confused at your poor phrasing, makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate.

Dude read the comment I was replying to...

it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

I did not say any of those words. wtf. I didn't word shit terribly, you just made stuff up.

makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

Whether or not this is passive aggressive, it sounds like it is, which makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

[–] D_isforPaul@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate.

Dude read the comment I was replying to...

He was definitely talking about people using the app and complaining that they can't have it all for free. You're not one of those people.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original post is about someone using a free app (the web app). They check out Sync and see that it has ads and costs money otherwise, and that cost has no regional pricing (apparently). So they continue to use the web app. It's a fair complaint and it doesn't make them a cheapskate. Doesn't have anything to do with other people's choices. Doesn't mean the dev is an evil person. It's a just a bruh moment they had.

[–] D_isforPaul@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but the comment you were replying to was talking about people using the free version of sync. They didn't say people are cheapskates because they don't want to pay for an app they don't use.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i said don't need not don't use. its such a ridiculous comment to call people cheapskates. this defence of Sync is wild in these comments.

[–] D_isforPaul@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said you're not using the app. I'm not defending sync, just clarifying. You're taking it personally but it wasn't actually directed at you at all.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

im defending the people it was directed at

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He doesn't deserve any reward for making spyware/adware garbage. His app is at odds with the ethos of lemmy. Fuck your ad hominem.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol spyware 🤣🤣

Do you work for free?

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can maneuver all you want, it is spyware. My hobby work is free. I don't track my users nor do I inundate them with ads. I believe that's unethical.

My work work is not available for free in any capacity whatsoever.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good job you're not using an android phone so it doesn't matter!

It's his full time job, so his "work work " isn't free in any capacity either, you either pay with ad revenue or you pay with $20

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He chose to go down that path. No one forced him. It's a brain dead argument mate.

Oh and btw, it is free in some capacity. You do not have to pay to use the free version. It's literally called the fucking free version.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The free version with ads that pay the developer that everyone's losing their minds over like they've never seen an advert before.

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rightfully so, because it tracks you, collects and sells your data and inundates you with ads, which is literally every single fucking thing lemmy was built to get around.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Or is it just a continuation of the usual Google platform. Being used on a Google phone with a Google account.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@drekly @Plswrk, nobody needs to work for free, but creating incommings by spying the user to sell his data to third party isn't an acceptable way to gain money. There are a lot of methodes to gain money in the network, but with surveillance advertising spyware is the worse and with big risks for the user, which can't control where his personal data ends up.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

He just put ads in his app mate. He's not in the CIA