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[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (22 children)

Meat industry: have to ramp up production because fucking idiotic people continue to breed uncontrollably and unsustanably

disease starts spreading and affecting the industry

Smug-ass cultist vegans: MuSt Be ThE mEaT eAtErS!!!1 Come on, my wife Moon Seashell, we need to get you pregnant again because our 14 malnourished kids isn't enough!

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 months ago (21 children)

True, increased demand for meat is one of the driving factors of ecological malpractise as it's found in the meat industry.

Plant based diets and a lifestyle free of animal products provide a more sustainable and ecologically beneficial alternative. As does reducing the overall world population of course.

[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (20 children)

A lifetime free of animal products is not sustainable. Humans need at least some meat to survive. The average person eats too much which isn't helping. Advocating a vegan (or even vegetarian) diet is ignoring science and how our bodies function. It causes long-term, serious harm to people who do not supplement their diet with at least some meat.

Pure veganism is a cult that ignores science, diet, and common sense. Nothing wrong with eating vegan meals (I love them) but completely cutting out meat is bad for you.

[–] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So precisely how long are vegans able to survive without suffering ill effects? Because I mean we've all heard of people who have lived on that diet long term, so at what point do the wheels start to fall off so to speak? Is there some kind of extended latency period where you are okay before you get sick, or are vegan influencers just pretending to be healthy?

Also your how do you propose we change our agricultural practices so that our food supply isn't tainted by sick meat grown in poor conditions? There's a lot of evidence that there's not enough land mass on earth to feed everyone a diet of free range grass fed beef. Or do you propose we run full steam ahead with factory farming and damn the consequences?

[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No vegan has lived on a pure vegan diet long enough to not have severe issues. If you search you will find tons of former vegans who were forced off of their pure vegan diets by severe medical issues. People who call themselves "vegans" and are still doing well after a long time are either really vegetarians who eat a lot of animal-derived products to compensate, or cheat and eat meat here and there.

[–] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yes i understand what you are getting at there, but my question is precisely how long does one have before the wheels fall off while eating a strict vegan diet? Are we talking a matter of days, weeks, months, years, or decades?

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