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What do you think will happen if we don't pass the aid for Ukraine? (lemm.ee)

submitted 7 months ago by lemmylem@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why did the countries choose to join NATO? Maybe it was because Russia is a threat. A fact that was later proved by the invasion of Ukraine which actually made more countries join NATO.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why did the countries choose to join NATO?
Maybe it was because Russia is a threat. A fact that was later proved by the invasion of Ukraine which actually made more countries join NATO.

If we are making hypothesis, USA bullying smaller countries into joining its own gang is much more probable. After all, it is not disputed that USA has been bullying everyone into forcing sanctions against Russia and only big countries like India and Germany have been able take a stand against American bullying.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My country joined because of Russia and their invasion of Ukraine not because of the USA.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whatever makes you feel better. I am done here. I'll leave some reading material for you though.

If you haven't read actual Russian propaganda so far, I'd highly recommend reading the entire Big Serge's Substack for a rather informed take from perspective of a Russian in USA.

Enjoy these long reads with good tea.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I suggest you grow up.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Ok. Mama.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because US has a massive propaganda machine and literally overthrows governments that aren't compliant. Entire books have been written on this subject, and yet here you are spewing ignorant drivel smugly.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Russia invaded Ukraine. The USA didn't. They have also done terrible things but we are discussing the invasion of Ukraine now.

Just because the USA has overthrown governments doesn't give Russia any right to invade Ukraine many years later.

here you are spewing ignorant drivel smugly.

Ditto. A country which is so afraid of freedoms and rights can't be trusted. Any reasonable country allows journalists to live.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

USA literally published a paper on how they want to goad Russia into a war in Ukraine with the goal of extending Russia https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

USA ran a coup in Ukraine that overthrew a democratically elected government to put a far right regime in place that then committed atrocities against people of Donbas since 2014. I lovew how you ignore all that since it doesn't fit your infantile narrative.

Ditto. A country which is so afraid of freedoms and rights can’t be trusted. Any reasonable country allows journalists to live.

I never said I trust the US regime or their media.