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What do you think will happen if we don't pass the aid for Ukraine? (lemm.ee)

submitted 7 months ago by lemmylem@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] gun@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Russia can then ingest Ukraine, continue to seed political distrust in Western countries and then potentially start another war in Europe a few years later.

Holy shit this is the most mapgame-brained comment of all time. You mean Russia will get enough war score to annex Ukrainian territories, wait a few years for aggressive expansion to die down, spend some admin points to press the "sow discontent" button, then war when the casus belli is ready? Like a classic EU4 blob?

Stop gaming and read some books.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Things are not getting objectively worse in the West, its just russian propaganda!

[–] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean.

It's not like Russia has never done any of those things individually.

So doing them again in that sequence seems right.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago

It’s not like Russia has never done any of those things individually.

[citation needed]

[–] jahashar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Russia has been seeding discontent in Europe for decades. (1)

Russia has invaded Checnya, Abkhazia, Southern Ossetia, Transnistria, Krim, Ukraine (2). Baltics stand next in line, in a few years, if West fails.

It's literally a sick war game for Putin's Kreml.

[–] highalectical@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Baltics stand next in line, in a few years, if West fails.

God, I hope so. The Baltics are fash af.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Ok, I'll bite

How has Russia invaded Transnistria? Transnistria was a breakaway region during the collapse of the Soviet union, similar to Gagauzia
No one disputes that Chechnya is Russian territory. Russia cannot invade its own territory.
Georgian military intended to genocide ethnic minorities. Russia supported the autonomy of said minorities.
Crimea was given to Ukraine by Kruschev very recently. It is almost entirely ethnically Russian, and those ethnic Russians voted overwhelmingly to secede during a coup/constitutional crisis as the alternative was staying in a country where there culture and language are banned, or worse become the target of hate crimes from neo-nazi battalions as many cases are well-documented