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I used to downvote fairly often on Reddit as a sign to disagree or to push down really disgusting bigoted comments. And to be honest, it became a habit to just downvote without replying. However, now that Iโ€™m on lemmy and not Reddit Iโ€™ve been actively trying to not instantly downvote things and instead move on or take the time to reply. Has anyone else been trying to do this?

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[โ€“] GONADS125@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've never changed my voting habits. I downvote trolls, hate, spam, and irrelevant content. I never downvote out of disagreement, nor do I use the upvote as an agreement button. I will upvote people I disagree with/am debating with if I believe they are promoting relevant discussion. That is how voting is intended to be used.

[โ€“] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

I don't downvote if I disagree but I can't help but upvotes in agreement. Positive reinforcement is my thing.

[โ€“] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same for me, my only difficulty is discerning whether the commenter is promoting relevant discussion or doing some variant of gishgallop or sealioning.

[โ€“] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had to look it up. Basically bad faith actors.

Gish gallop: "This Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

Sealioning: "Sealioning' is a form of trolling meant to exhaust the other debate participant with no intention of real discourse." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

[โ€“] MarcellusDrum@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Same. For me, upvote = adding something to the conversation. That's why I upvote most comments I come across, and rarely downvote people.

[โ€“] MurrayL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They should make it so that replying to a comment automatically disables your ability to downvote it.

Would simultaneously prevent people trading downvotes while they argue back and forth, and encourage people to simply ignore trolls and move on without replying.

[โ€“] DoomAxe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If a post contains incorrect information that could be dangerous, you should be able to reply to it and also downvote it so that the incorrect information becomes less visible. For example, if someone said you should pinch your nose and lean your head back when you get a nosebleed. You should be able to correct them and still downvote to make the incorrect information less visible.

[โ€“] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't the correction be sufficient? Other users could read it and decide to downvote

[โ€“] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I like this idea. Make the karma irrelevant so we don't get those awful bots or the tit-for-tat arguments