Come to think of it, the guessiest guesser in my life is from an industrial factory-labourer workingclass background, but different country. They experience direct requests as confrontations, so they are very easy to inadvertently hurt. It used to exasperate me, until I read the above concept.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, kinda curious, might also be one families customs vs the others, though. Might also be a family that became wealthy at the turn of the last century, and then got stuck in the way they thought they where expected to act, enforced via 'traditions' taught. Dunno, really.

The guessiest person I ever met was actually the mother of my last partner. She was, on the one hand, usually offended by direct requests, while also very much assuming and extrapolating things from anything indirect one said, to the point where she often became incredibly offended by things no one said, but that she heard. It was exhausting, to a degree, and my first instinct was that she was looking for things to be offended about, either consciously or subconsciously, but I also feel that I can't really judge someone for the way they perceive the world.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think once you get a group of people all guessing it normalizes it within a family as well maybe?

It really is a perception thing I think, but yeah it can feel incredibly exhausting for us, instinctively oppo and I guess frustrating for them.

I had some insight once when a sibling was complaining about how they kept making excuses not to pick up a gift they'd accepted and they seemed genuinely angry the person was still offering and hadn't "taken the hint" they don't actually want it. It's flabbergasting to me but seems like that's really how they see things.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One way to normalise it was probably that there where euphemisms seen as the acceptable way to hint at, or say something. I guess.

And yeah. I think people just need to come to terms with there being a range of ways others express themselves, and that they can't expect everyone will just understand their specific way immediately.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

@VeganCheesecake I agree. Communication can be hard but it's rewarding.