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I thought I'd chuck windows on my gaming laptop an Acer nitro 5 from last year, to see how it's going do some bits I can't on Linux VR, certain multiplayer games etc.

What a disaster! I've spent the whole day brute forcing drivers and generally dicking about trying to get my setup sorted.

Upon installation, Wi-Fi drivers don't exist, so you cannot use the internet while installing if you're on Wi-Fi. Mint's had this since what 2006? But that's cool, Cortana is here to chat away and not understand any requests. Once finally in the OS after 20 questions that could be considered harassment if it was a person, nothing was ready to go. Every single driver needed sourcing and installing.

People have the cheek to complain about Linux's Nvidia install, literally two clicks on most distros if it isn't already baked in. Go to website find driver, download click click click agree click wait more software click click wait.

Plug in my sound card OK it's a bit old now UA-25 but nothing happens...hmm find obscure video partially install a driver from Vista then cancel the installation program so you can side load a driver from 8,1 but wait there's more disable core isolation to allow the driver to work reboot into a now slightly more compromised OS.

OK plug in wheel again not new stuff G25 oh it works cool. Oh, no H-shifter OK download driver. "Can't find device, ensure it's plugged in". Windows decided it knew better, downloaded its own driver that blocks the official one and loads a steering wheel as a gamepad..GG cool cool.

I do not understand why we still have this image that Windows is noob friendly, it's such a convoluted obfuscated process to do anything. It does worse than nothing, it thinks it's smart enough to carry out tasks on the user behalf and just bork it.

All of these issues are because I don't have the new shiny things, but it really highlighted why I love Linux now if you'll excuse me I'm going to install a distro and play on my 20-year-old peripherals

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft is a corporation designed to MAKE DOLLAZ SON

Yeah? Most companies are designed to make money, is it wrong to want to earn money?

Oh and I am not your son, please don't refer to me as such.

OP - I salute you and your 20 year old peripherals. At least you are creatively making something you have work rather than buying shit that causes more problems.

To me it sounds like OP had the stuff working on Linux and decided to try Windows, then when some random 20 year old device didn't work decided to bash Windows to hell and back.

This is like the bicycle meme where OP is biking fine, stops, puts a Windows pipe in the spokes and blames Windows for his issues when he falls over.

This is not being creative to find a way to keep using his devices, they were working, this is not being creative to find a way to do what he wanted to do on Linux, this is going back to the standard recipie with 20 year old ingerdients and expecting to make a beautiful and tasty cake and complaining when it tastes like rot.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

OK bro. Just adding some friendly banter to a very serious topic.

Dude. The old "is it wrong to make money argument?" No. I'm stating it is DESIGNED to make money in a way that is making the actual product shittier and shittier (insert tired Cory Doctorow quote here) to the consumer.

Sigh...As stated below... The point is that he has the right to complain about Windows. The point is also that he has the option to ask the Linux community to build a driver to make it work if it didn’t work. The point is Microsoft does not give two shits about what OP wants because it has an extremely large share of the market. It no longer has to do good by its customer because it is no longer neccessary.

The point is… he can complain because he tried doing it with Windows and it didn’t work.

Yes, it is creative as is your tasty cake rot analogy. I will upvote that even though I disagree

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The bike analogy is weak tho.

Just add... he got back on bike (the one with the 20 year old handlebars that he loved) after he fixed everything and learned not to stick Windows in his spokes.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

I thought the bike analogy was quite apt, but I can accept that OP didn't actively know about the issues he would see untill he got started with Windows, so I can accept your argument here

[–] syaochan@mastodon.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@stoy oh the joy of bias. Some random device does not work in linux? Linux is shit.
Some random device does not work in Windows? It's user's fault

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Eh, I see it more like this:

20 year old device doesn't work in Windows/Linux: "Oh, well time to get a new one anyway."

20 year old device works with Windows/Linux: "Sweet!"

OP took it too far when it didn't work