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I love Lemmy! (programming.dev)

submitted 8 months ago by RagnarokOnline@programming.dev to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

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Was just browsing my favorite communities, commenting on posts I found really interesting, and engaging with other users who wanted to have conversations.

… and not a single paid ad in my feed. I effing love this platform.

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[–] Materiogorath@lemmy.eco.br 50 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I feel a lot more comfortable commenting here than anywhere else. Was always a lurker in reddit, but am a lot more active here. The feeling of not having your comment buried by thousands is kind of nice.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Eh, it still happens, but instead of thousands, it's dozens or hundreds, depending on the community and post.

But I do appreciate the smaller communities and complete lack of ads.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The algorithm for comments is better here too though. It favours the early commenter less than reddit did.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I think it goes too far the other way. I see a lot of comments with the default votes at the top, which are frequently less insightful than the highly upvoted comments below it.

It's completely fine for the scale lemmy is currently at, but I think it would be problematic with anything approaching Reddit scale.

Edit: fix typo: cord -> votes

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's intentional, reddit has probably the worst sorting algorithm of all the link aggregators. It's entirely time dependent. In practice, the first post / comment is nearly always the highest rated, regardless of it's quality.

https://minimaxir.com/2016/11/first-comment/

TL:DR of the above article: if you're not one of the first ten or so commenters in a reddit thread, don't even bother.

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Max(1, 3 + Score)

Ah, that's why I see heavily downvoted posts near the top.

I wonder if it would make sense to randomly sort for the first couple hours, and then sort by that metric afterward. That would further limit the first mover advantage in more popular communities.

Regardless, lemmy's sort seems to be fine with the scale it's currently at.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Default cord?

And I agree it may not scale properly however we're still far away from that and I think it's beneficial for growth now.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Default votes. As in, new posts float to the top, even if they don't have any actual votes.

It's good enough, I don't think we're at the point where it's "better than Reddit" because they operate at very different scales.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

That's good. Keep that in mind next time you come across something interesting and consider posting it.

[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

I like this too! There wasn’t much point in posting anything on an r/popular post because no one would see it. Here I feel like I’m actually contributing [which really helps my fragile self-esteem ;)]

[–] ralakus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There's also the whole fact that you're less likely to get downvoted and berated to hell on lemmy. Still happens sometimes though if you openly present as American