this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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That's really not the point. If the instance you post on is defederated from Threads and you create a valuable post (for example a lengthy review of some hardware) then Meta can't just copy your post and put it on their platform. It would be stealing/a copyright violation.
If Meta gets your content then they can (ab)use it. Put ads on it, charge to see it, mask it as their own content, whatever. So wanting to defederate from Meta is absolutely valid and if Meta steals your post you could force them to take it down.
Meta just reading the content to train AI.. not much you can do there. But putting your post up on their platform to serve to their users is a wholly different beast. Even when federated they would have to show your username@yourinstance.com and can't just say they created it.
So. If I understand this correctly it’s possible I do not)
Your mastodon account is on a server that is federated with threads
A threads user, your mom for instance, decides to follow your mastodon account.
When you mother sees your cool post, she will probably have an ad in line with it.
Is meta monetizing your content, or your mother’s attention? Is there a difference?
Is the optimal outcome 1: your mom cannot see your cool post, or 2: your mom joins a mastodon server?
Is 2 likely? Seems to me the real concern here is that non corporate fediverse systems are finally getting some traction and the users (us) are afraid that meta will steal all the users away. I’m not sure if defederating them from a server will make a damn bit of difference.
Meta is going to win the fight for user numbers. Full stop.
Unless i misunderstood, I believe the point of this post wasn't talking about defederating, it is asking about protecting the users data from Meta if federation happen, and for that point it is what I said, his data is as protected as before, federated or not, Meta won't get access to any extra data from being federated than it already has access to now.
Defederating is another entire discussion that is really up to the instance admin, self hosting is the only way to really guarantee anything if you want that much deep control of your data and fediverse experience.