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[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was a de facto member as long as NATO existed. Now it also is a de jure member too, a big nothing-burger.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

NATO membership comes with guarantees and responsibilities.

The guarantee is that if Sweden would be attacked, other members will support with their troops. The responsibility is that Sweden must expand their military.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The former won't happen. Sweden is sorrounded by friendly countries. The second is a downside for Sweden.

So globally it is a nothing burger and locally it is a negative development for Sweden.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Russia has access to Sweden through the Baltic Sea via Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg.

There has been a concern that Russia wants to get Gotland. If they get Gotland, which is a good strategic island in the Baltic Sea. Now that island is under NATO.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Based on Russian presence in the Baltic Sea the past few years. There has even been reports of Russian exercises training to use nuclear warheads against Sweden. Lots of military exercises in Sweden has been stationed in Gotland due to its strategic importance. I’ve heard it be jokingly called “Sweden’s largest aircraft carrier”.

I’m a Swede, and it has been quite frequent with news about Russian presence the past decade or so. The sentiment has for a long time been that Sweden should remain neutral despite all these threats. This sentiment changed by the invasion of Ukraine when it became clear Russia is ready to attack non-NATO members in Europe.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There has even been reports of Russian exercises training to use nuclear warheads against Sweden.

Where?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

The guarantee is that if Sweden would be attacked, other members will support with their troops.

Allied guarantees are not something to rely on really. The de-facto participation was something more honest for expectations IMHO.

The responsibility is that Sweden must expand their military.

I don't think that's a problem for them, they never turned it into some bureaucratized rudimentary institution in the first place and they had a nice military during the Cold War.