The fact that you say that clearly shows that you're just here to troll and not interested in having a genuine discussion of the subject. You just want to peddle your atrocity propaganda here. Again, how morally bankrupt does one have to be to shill for the empire like that.

[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Argue the content stop running away you do this every time which is why it happens this way. Proving you a liar isn't trolling.

So why were tanks there? Where are that man's legs? Explain these photos? Why were the students in the square? What were they hunger striking for?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not running away form anything. I've explained to you that US tried to run a color revolution in China which failed. I've provided you with a source that documents the chain of events and references primary sources documenting these events. The reason the students were in the square is explained in great detail in the link I gave you and you obviously failed to read (twice by your own account).

Here's a different source with even more information, and even some pictures for people with poor reading comprehension https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/

So maybe take your own advice, stop running away and start engaging with the actual facts instead of doing low effort trolling.

[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lmfao everyone look at this shit

that link is so desperate for proof. They link articles from Wikipedia, Wikipedia will also inform you the Massacre happened.

It quotes these articles, this is also what you find throughout both links he provided.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8057762.stm

There was no Tiananmen Square massacre, but there was a Beijing massacre.

The shorthand we often use of the "Tiananmen Square protests" of 1989 gives the impression that this was just a Beijing issue. It was not.

Protests occurred in almost every city in China (even in a town on the edge of the Gobi desert).

What happened in 1989 was by far the most widespread pro-democracy upheaval in communist China's history. It was also by far the bloodiest suppression of peaceful dissent.

James Miles is now the Beijing correspondent of The Economist, and author of The Legacy of Tiananmen: China in Disarray (University of Michigan Press, 1996).

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/

Some have found it uncomfortable that all this conforms with what the Chinese government has always claimed, perhaps with a bit of sophistry: that there was no "massacre in Tiananmen Square."

But there's no question many people were killed by the army that night around Tiananmen Square, and on the way to it — mostly in the western part of Beijing. Maybe, for some, comfort can be taken in the fact that the government denies that, too.

This story was filed by CBS News correspondent Richard Roth, who was detained by Chinese authorities for 20 hours on June 4, 1989, while covering the Tiananmen Square "crackdown".

The entire argument is no media personnel saw the events in Tianamen Square, THE SPECIFIC SQUARE, so calling it the Tiananmen Square Massacre is a lie since nobody saw anyone be massacred in THE SPECIFIC SQUARE. But read the accounts yourself, they say absolutely there was a very violent crackdown and many people were killed.

These are links YOU provided and this is all you find on these two links YOU provided. It is so weak flimsy and pathetic. Sure nobody saw a massacre in the square specifically but we know it was a bloody crackdown.

Where are Fang Zheng's legs bro?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fang_Zheng

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I love how you're utterly unable to engage with the subject, and just keep spamming your propaganda outlets.

The entire argument is no media personnel saw the events in Tianamen Square, THE SPECIFIC SQUARE, so calling it the Tiananmen Square Massacre is a lie since nobody saw anyone be massacred in THE SPECIFIC SQUARE. But read the accounts yourself, they say absolutely there was a very violent crackdown and many people were killed.

What are you even smoking, there's even a documentary published on this in China

https://web.archive.org/web/20200604205421/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDMXV1smwR0

These are links YOU provided and this is all you find on these two links YOU provided. It is so weak flimsy and pathetic. Sure nobody saw a massacre in the square specifically but we know it was a bloody crackdown.

What specifically is "flimsy" and "pathetic" in the links I provided. Everything the links say is backed by actual facts and primary sources in those links. You have not addressed a single thing in those links.

It's quite hilarious how you trolls are only able to follow the script you memorized and aren't actually capable of discussing the topic intelligently. Even ChatGTP could come up with a more intelligent response than this. 😂