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[–] HandMadeArtisanRobot@lemmy.world 100 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The most amazing thing about this is that the plant has never seen a hummingbird.

Think about it. The plant has no eyes nor the ability to change its own leaves. What must have happened? Maybe an ancestor had leaves that randomly, vaguely resembled a bird? Perhaps the descendants that happened to look more like hummingbirds were then pollinated more often than the rest?

Nature is so fucking crazy and I love it.

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 63 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Wow he's actually a good artist

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bee porn. What a filthy filthy flower

[–] mac@infosec.pub 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It also resorted to masturbation for survival

[–] omnomed@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 29 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is species of spider that has evolved to look like an ant. They do this so they can infiltrate the ant's nests and get a free meal by just eating the ants food.

The thing is the ants blind so there was no point looking the same as they wouldn't have been able to tell anyway.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The spiders must feel very smug about it tho.

[–] mac@infosec.pub 5 points 9 months ago

Hehe, they'll never know

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 9 months ago

It should, however, emit some pheromone, as the ants use that to identify each other..

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 9 months ago

Hmm, getting a free meal by looking like the staff...

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 9 months ago

Can't they feel the shape?

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The plant has no eyes nor the ability to change its own leaves.

You should probably google Boquila trifoliolata.

But yes, it's impressive if it never met anything that looks like a hummingbird.

[–] HandMadeArtisanRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Holy shit, thanks for sharing! I think it's impressive in either case.

For anyone else, here's an article I found about it: https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/2022/11/30/23473062/plant-mimicry-boquila-trifoliolata

[–] nvvp@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's just a random coincidence. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Looks way too much like natural selection than a coincidence.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think he's pointing out the fundamental misunderstanding a lot of people have about natural selection: nothing chooses to evolve; there is no active participation. Whether the plant could see hummingbirds or not is irrelevant because it can't change it's genetics and mutate on a whim anyways.

Natural selection is when genetic mutations happen by chance, and sometimes those mutations just happen to benefit the survival and reproduction of that individual, so the genetics mutation gets passed on. It's just a fluke though. It's a fluke that the mutation occurred and and even bigger fluke that it lead to reproductive benefit.

So the evolution of any kind of survival mechanism is, at its core, a coincidence.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Mutations happen by chance but the result is not random, because natural selection is not random.

Update: Regarding your first part: A lot of people misunderstand the role randomness plays. Evolution is not random and not a coincidence but a consequence of any system that makes imperfect replicas in an environment that rewards (or punishes) certain traits.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

How did the system come about? You say this as if the system were intentionally designed. But it is not: the natural order which creates evolutionary pressure is itself the culmination of many coincidences.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think it was designed but that's nothing evolution is concerned about. Evolution is (as the name implies) about evolving systems and doesn't really say anything about how the first replicating "system" came to be because that's abiogenesis and not evolution.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, that's all true, but their use of "random coincidence" seems to entirely dismiss the selective pressure that created this plant. Selective pressure is not "a random coincidence". It's a long series of random coincidences all leading up to the organism we see now.

It was a very dismissive, useless comment.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 9 months ago

Opinion. Literature says this is still being debated.