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A few days ago I shared some news that the Eurovision song from Israel would be named "Your land is mine now" to later realize it was from an onion kind of website, lol.

I hope I'm not alone in this kind of f'up.

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[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I just can't figure out why we have a school shooting problem...

- says the only nation where this regularly happens.

[โ€“] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

They got rid of gun shaped transformers (megatron) and gun shaped Pez dispensers. You can't expect Americans to do more than this.

[โ€“] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

My favorite childhood toy was a metal-and-plastic, kid-sized Winchester 1873. It came with plastic beads it could shoot - they were all lost within days, but it still made a "pop" when you cocked and shot it. I tried to carry that thing everywhere; I clearly remember the trauma when my parents refused to let me take it to church, or school.

Anyway, I've always assumed my experience and desires were pretty standard for kids: they like guns. Is that uniquely American? Do German and Chinese kids not run around with gun-shaped sticks or toys "shooting" at each other?

Edit: typo

[โ€“] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure they do. The difference is they don't do it with real weapons because people generally don't own real weapons. When they do own one (for hunting or sport, never for personal protection), it's locked in a secure safe by law and requires successful completion of a fairly tough training with a proficiency test at the end.

[โ€“] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Was the JR15 mentioned above a real gun? I have a hard time imagining a functioning rifle chambered in 5.56 that would be small enough for a child to handle. And AR15s aren't that big; a young teen can handle them fairly easily.

I guess my point is that the AR frame is about as small as you can make a functioning 5.56 rifle anyway. You could put a shorter barrel on it, maybe lighten the stock, but now you've just made a carbine. The upper isn't getting any smaller... so what's "JR" about it?

Scaling an AR down so it just looks like one, but is chambered in something shorter like .22 short... I guess you could call it a JR15. Seems like a cheap cop-out, since that upper is the defining feature of the AR15. Although a guess there are derivations chambered in Blackout, Grendel and so on, and they're all considered based on the AR platform.

Hence, my assumption it was a toy.

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

LOL I guessed at the caliber. .22 long isn't much longer than short, in the grand scheme of things.

What a crazy development.

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[โ€“] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's conversion kits for regular 5.56 AR to .22lr too. It's just a bolt and mag change, cmmg sells the "good" ones. Pretty popular choice for plinkers too!

This Jr-15 is injection molded btw, gotta be light af. And it's made by Schmid of Schmid Tools which is actually pretty cool, they make some good shit. The site for wee1 is down though so while they were at SHOT idk if the product is live or ever will be.

[โ€“] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 3 points 9 months ago

I only occasionally see that here in Asia. It exists, but I feel like it's much less. I immigrated here maybe 12 years ago from the West. The overall level of violence is much lower than I grew up with (even in Canada).

Most young people I know consider handling guns more of a chore. In Vietnam, learning to disassemble, clean, maintain, and reassemble an AK-47 is a mandatory class. My wife got top score :)

Anyway, we stumbled on a great way to make guns uncool, I think. Personal possession is illegal here except for shotguns, it's for some very specific scenario that I don't exactly recall. I knew of some remote workplaces with one, in case of wild animals. We get some, but not many, illegal firearms.