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[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who said anything about America? Fuck America. You know, most countries don't brainwash their citizens with China-level nationalism.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can't think of a single country in the West that doesn't.

[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 2 points 1 year ago

Apologies, didn't check before and thought you were the OP.

[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd say "they" might try? But no western country's government has an iron grip on what news is reported/propagated in their respective countries like China does.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, sure, it's not like capital accumulation in your bourgeois dictatorship has lead to consolidation and oligopolies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXfRDC2NKY0

[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm well aware, but, hey, we don't get thrown in prison for questioning our leaders or the reported stories.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you trying to argue that China isn't a terrible, totalitarian state? What is your point, even? Chinese whataboutism is so obnoxious.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

And Western whataboutism is so prolific you don't even know that you're doing it.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh look. Assange. Again. It's like when you click on a link hoping someone's been more clever than to try rickrolling again, but they haven't.

It's worth noting that there has been plenty of criticism from leading US journalism outlets over the handling of Assange's case. Answer honestly, would you ever see that in China?

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Criticism of the handling of a journalist is not the same as criticism of war crimes and black ops carried out by the government. Assange was imprisoned because he was exposing the lies, deceptions and horrible actions the US empire was (is, of course, too) carrying out. Good luck finding information about China massacring civilians when they invade a country with an army and steal their resources. A hint, it's not going to happen.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assange was imprisoned because he was exposing the lies, deceptions and horrible actions the US empire was (is, of course, too) carrying out.

Is that so? Then why do other journalistic outlets routinely get damning leaks without having legal action brought against them? Why is Assange the only example of a journalist prosecuted by the US that ever gets brought up?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like how you use a western source. lol

[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 0 points 1 year ago

You can think, period. You only know what you're shown, and you're shown a bunch of bullshit.