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Laptop companies: which one? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by wwwgem@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Hello fellows,

I'm currently looking in 13-14" laptops with no immediate needs for one but just because it's exciting. I love my Dell XPS but I feel I should support companies with which I share more common views. I could make the effort to go a with a less attractive look (especially for bezels) but I don't want to go wrong with hardware so what are your thoughts on Framework, Starlab, Purism, and System76? I'll be running Arch and I tend to have a preference for Framework for now.

Do you have feedback (positive and negative) to share on any of these companies?

Thanks for the knowledge you'll bring me. That'll be extremely useful when time comes to go with a new machine.

Update 1: Still wonderful to be part of such a great community. Thanks for all the great feedback (looking for more :) ).
So far everyone is standing behind Framework. Anyone with a less positive experience or who would like to speak for the other companies?

Update 2: Thank you fellows for the time you've spent to share your honest feedback! I didn't want to influence your inputs but you all confirmed the Framework picture I had in mind. It's a piece of mind to read real world experience so thanks again. I was surprised to not see the system76 community speaks louder. Anyway, when time comes I will (virtually) push Framework shop's door.

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Weirdly, my (five year old) Microsoft Surface runs Ubuntu perfectly. (Edit to clarify, after some initial hassle.)

I'm eying a Framework 16 next.

Edit: To clarify, I would not recommend purchasing a Microsoft Surface to put Linux on it. As others have pointed out, it's not the smoothest setup experience.

If anyone already has a Surface and wants to extend it's life with Linux, that I recommend wholeheartedly. With the disclaimer that there was some weird nerdy deep-dive extra setup needed.

[–] krash@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Certain surface models run linux fine, but I wouldn't recommended it as a linux laptop as it requires solving several issues before you get a working computer.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

That is a terrific point!

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I have a 6 year old Dell laptop and was hoping Linux would make it snappier. Ubuntu ran the best on it of the distros I tried, but it still had lag issues that I didn't experience in Windows. I was able to to troubleshoot some other issues I had to get everything running mostly pretty good, but not that one.

I feel like if you want to go the laptop route, it makes a bit more sense to buy something officially supported.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

I feel like if you want to go the laptop route, it makes a bit more sense to buy something officially supported.

Agreed! I've had very similar experiences with trying to run Linux on Laptops.

With my Surface Go, I was desperate to get it back into a useable state, and I had a surprisinly easy time. Largely thanks to the Linux on Surface Go hobbyists I found guidance from.

But when buying a new laptop, I would one of the many better options in this thread, every time.