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Biden's popularity is at a historic low with 65% disapproval. (www.pewresearch.org)

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[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People who can’t make a realistic choice are far worse.

I have made a realistic choice, and it doesn't involve voting for Genocide Joe.

When you represent an itty bitty fraction of the populace, you don’t have the right to dictate that policy be far-left.

Schrödinger's Leftist: simultaneously an irrelevant tiny minority with no power, and crucially important to Biden winning, being wholly responsible if Trump wins.

you are only hurting yourself by giving up what little influence you had.

Unconditionally voting Blue means I have no influence at all.

That’s just how democracy works

No, it really isn't.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Schrödinger’s Leftist: simultaneously an irrelevant tiny minority with no power, and crucially important to Biden winning, being wholly responsible if Trump wins.

No one is ever wholly responsible if the right wins, obviously. Wins are always based on a broad spectrum coalition, whereas losses are based on a coalition just barely failing. Modern US presidential elections are always close. Still, that doesn't mean a potential coalition member gets to dictate coalition policy, especially when they're on the extremes.

Unconditionally voting Blue means I have no influence at all.

Barring the demise of FPTP, you will never get what you want. Instead, politicians just learn you will never vote for them and they should look to more conservative constituencies. That, of course, means policies you don't like.

No, it really isn’t.

It's called compromise, and yes it is how a functioning democracy works.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still, that doesn’t mean a potential coalition member gets to dictate coalition policy

Tell that to the 'centrist' democrats who are currently doing exactly that.

politicians just learn you will never vote for them and they should look to more conservative constituencies

I have always voted for them in the past; they looked to more conservative constituencies anyway. Seems like always voting for them just means they take my vote for granted.

It’s called compromise

Compromise requires both sides to give ground. What you're describing is capitulation.

and yes it is how a functioning democracy works.

If this is your idea of a functioning democracy, I question why you even believe in democracy in the first place.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have always voted for them in the past; they looked to more conservative constituencies anyway. Seems like always voting for them just means they take my vote for granted.

Huh. That's odd. Democrats have been trending to the left.

If this is your idea of a functioning democracy, I question why you even believe in democracy in the first place.

As it stands, I think US government badly needs some changes. FPTP is terrible, too many officials (SCOTUS, Congress, president) serve until they're at death's door, the electoral college never worked as intended, and money has too much influence. But this is all fixable, even if it's hard. Those will change things, not staying home and pretending that a politician gives a rat's ass about you if you refuse to turn out every time you don't get your way.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wrote up a long response, but then I saw that you'd said this:

if you refuse to turn out every time you don’t get your way.

And realised you're not even bothering to read my posts, you're just reading out a script. Fuck off.