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Mozilla says Apple’s new browser rules are “as painful as possible” for Firefox (www.theverge.com)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.

For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.

Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.

Source: https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 91 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I like how just about everyone I who’s looked at this is basically like, “fuck apple”.

There are a few fanboys, but they are way less common than usual.

I’m hoping Apple picks up on this and reverses course.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They won't care, they have the consumerist crowd locked down. The crowd that buys dozens of Stanley Tumblers so they have one that matches any outfit. There might be more of us who care than there used to be, but the average iPhone buyer doesn't care and Apple knows it.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I am so out of the loop on Stanley tumblers. People are obsessed with them, I don’t get it.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The gist of it from what I remember is a woman's car burned, but her Stanley tumbler survived the fire, and maybe still had ice in it. Anyway she posted on tiktok about the whole incident, and Stanley's marketing department got the biggest lay-up ever, I think they bought her a new car, and launched a bunch of new colors of tumblers as limited edition things.

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Basically, the person who marketed crocs and made them popular was hired to market Stanley tumblers, and they are genuinely one of the best at their job.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

I don't understand it, but they are very good at what they do

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I’ll take a stab at speaking for Apple fans, and in fact developers. (I’m an ex-employee.)

There are a lot of things we like about the user experience on their platforms, and we appreciate their general interest in privacy while not engaging in the dirty data mining / advertising business of Google and Microsoft. There is a polish on their platforms that is best in class.

But I don’t believe any of us actually support the App Store lockdown situation. It’s probably the biggest black mark on their record. I think they got it right on macOS, requiring the binaries to be notarised (signed digitally) in such a way that malware can be blacklisted. This is a useful security feature. But developers are free to distribute however they want and third party stores like SetApp and Steam coexist happily with the App Store.

100% of their arguments about keeping the App Store as the sole distribution chain are bullshit because macOS is the proof. It’s pure rent-seeking behaviour.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But the privacy is just a facade, right? Like with that recent scandal about the government requesting push notification info, Google of all companies was actually only handing it over with valid warrants while Apple was giving it to any law enforcement who asked.

[–] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

They are absolutely mining data.

[–] erez@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There is a polish on their platforms that is best in class

As someone who was an Android user and tried switching to an iPhone, I see lots of weird bugs and behaviors I never had with Android. Sure, the OS is slightly better, and rarely crashes, but everything else is a little bit worse.

Literally every Google app is better than Apple's. Be it Google maps, keyboard, mail, calendar, etc. But because they aren't made for iPhone, there's all kinds of little bugs, mostly visual/UI related.

And then there's all these nonsensical decisions that make my life harder. Hotspot can't run with wifi on, you can't record your calls (very useful when talking to banks, government, etc.), can't even arrange the icons in "home" screen to fixed locations or make them smaller.

I finally figured out that when Apple fans talk about polish, they just mean it looks pretty and feels high-end. Which, sure, I can concede that. But that's not what I actually care about.

Anyway, rant over, sorry to take it out on you!