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I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

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[–] christian@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, probably a little, but this same change was 1000x more noticeable like half a year ago when reddit banned third-party apps. I think it's reasonable to lament the change, and I kind of miss the tight-knit community from the first three years I was here, but it's still worth celebrating the platform taking off. Ultimately all you can do is be the change you wish to see in the world.

That said, if we start getting heavily astroturfed with bots and spam I'm going to be a little less zen about it.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do you know the bots aren't already here? What security fortress does Lemmy have that reddit doesn't which stops bots from being here?

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I don't anymore, but it definitely still doesn't feel anywhere near as bad as reddit is.

In the past, the security fortress Lemmy has had that reddit doesn't is the userbase being too small for organizations to feel astroturfing is worth their time.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That said, if we start getting heavily astroturfed with bots and spam I'm going to be a little less zen about it.

The spammers aren't here in custom full-force software_dev_lemmy_bots mode yet, but when they come, moderation tool development will increase in effort tenfold.

The nation states are already using their "play Guess The Bot and lose" games. It's the ones who post often and with clear lines in the sand you need to worry about. Problem is, there is a sea of regular people just like that.

Lemmy needs to go through a fork or three before it becomes viable to the mainstream. Currently Lemmy users produce much less legitimate worthwhile information on far less subjects than reddit, and even Quora shudder thinking about it.

Granted, I've only been here for about a week before reddit disabled 3rd party apps. Maybe the first 3 years were the golden years. I'm only speaking as to the bot infestation I see currently.