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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

There is no way this will end well. Mainstream news coverage is already unhinged.

Acts like this typically take Congressional approval. There is no emergency here, this is defending shipping lines. This is illegal.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Biden criticized Trump after the assassination of Soleimani 4 years ago, for the exact same thing.

"Donald Trump does not have the authority to take us into a war with Iran without Congressional approval. A president should never take this nation to war without the informed consent of the American people." -Joe Biden 1/6/2020

This is the US explicitly siding with Israel re: the genocide in Gaza, it's a major escalation.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Biden's a hypocrite, this is nothing new. He had both houses under control and still failed to legislate federal protections for trans people.

[–] schmi713@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I certainly agree that this won't help the situation in the middle east and will probably inflame already tense relations.

That being said, Biden followed domestic laws to a T in this situation. The War Powers Act gives him the ability to do operations like this so long as congress was notified and consulted (they were according to CNN - Though I would like to see it stated from a better source). It would only require further congressional approval if US assets are still there carrying out these acts 60-Days after the inital notification.

The coalition repeatedly warned the Houthi's that patience was running thin here. While this situation is horrible in its own right, I don't know what everyone expects when a group gets between multiple countries' and their money...

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The only thing the Houthis got between was multiple countries and their trade with Israel. The fact that they would rather support a genocide than make money...

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Bruh, what

Do you think the Suez canal, which predates Israel's existence by many decades, exists solely to ship to tiny-ass Israel?

The Houthis say they're only targeting Israeli or Israel-bound ships, but that is demonstrably false. Consequently insurance rates and shipping costs went way up which is having a cascade effect on economies barely recovering from inflation. Ships having to spend weeks going around Africa to transport cargo between Europe and Asia means global shipping capacity has been reduced and everyone pays more.

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Demonstrably false? COSCO is literally sailing ships through the Suez Canal today because they invalidated all Israeli shipments for boats passing through the Red Sea.

Edit: nevermind that it's entirely a country's jurisdiction to limit who can pass in their territorial waters. This is a fact given by international law.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How well would you say international law is holding up against overwhelming military superiority?

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Pretty well considering Ansarallah has not been "deterred" by the "surgical strikes" consisting of hundreds of missiles.

Glad we agree that the US and UK are pissing all over international law, though.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

the last time the US "declared war" was 1942

[–] yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There is no emergency here, this is defending shipping lines.

ehh, not just any shipping lines, though

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

OIL shipping lines o7