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I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.

While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?

I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.

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[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Lots of justification in this. Just be the change you want to see.

I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I salute you. Not many that are willing to do so. Maybe because most people don't have very deep convictions on using FLOSS. It is easier to just do what everyone else does, after all.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think the opposite. Working on windows is a pain in the ass. Like the system is not made for working and barely support it for actual computer work.

If you only use office or play video games, it's good, certainly, and it's good for the security team to have everyone with it because the system is built to only allow specific actions to be done. It's completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 3 points 10 months ago

Like the system is not made for working and barely support it for actual computer work.

Have noticed the same.

One example why windows is bad for a developer. Lets say you work with node.js Eventually you'll end up with node_modules directory in you project with tens of thousands of files and thousands of directories. If you delete that directory in windows it takes minutes. In Linux it's instantaneous.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s completely inapt for actual engineering and technical work.

Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can't get away from Windows.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, my mistake here. I was talking about computer engineering and technique. Other fields use a software. Windows is barely relevant to the question.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the engineering field, I have out a few specific examples of highly payed engineering fields that can’t get away from Windows.

Do share what they are.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Already did on the comment.

[–] ulu_mulu@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You can't do whatever you want if you're an employee in a big enterprise, there are company-wide rules and standards that you have to respect, you can't expect your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS to install on your company PC.

That's not to say you can't use Linux at all, you can ask your IT to be allowed to install Virtualbox and use Linux in a VM, that's what I do, there are a lot of things that don't strictly require Windows and I use Linux for those.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

your colleagues to adapt to you nor you can decide which OS

Sometimes its not even about colleagues, check my reply before https://lemmy.world/comment/6509728

[–] ulu_mulu@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah and sometimes it's not even just about customers, some people don't realize big enterprises (as in dozens of thousands of employees) are very different from smaller companies, they're like a "different world" on their own, not everything you can do on a smaller scale is feasible. They would probably need to work in one to really understand.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 10 months ago

I make it very clear at the interview stage that I use Linux. Its never been an issue.

If someone tried to force me to use proprietary software, I'd say no. If they wanted to fire me over that, it would be ridiculous. It's free and easy to support FOSS. Its costly & difficult to support proprietary software, so its not a hard sell.

You have more power than you think.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I only work with libre formats at work. If someone wants to collaborate, they can easily install libre office or gimp or freecad or gnu cash or whatever. Most libre software is free and cross-platform.

Okay so tell me, you're working on a budget with a potential customer that uses MS Office. You want to win that customer and do a big project for him, would you "bitch" about him about using MS Office and ask him to install LibreOffice whenever the spreadsheet formulas don't work properly?

What if said potential customer is a big company with strict IT policies? What if the person can't even install software or is older and unable do it but very proficient with Excel?

Are you willing to lose a potential big customer, a project that will pay your bills for months just because a boomer can't or won't be able to install LibreOffice?

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I tell customers to use Libre Office. I tell them its free, cross platform, give them a link to download it, and ask if they have any further questions.

If they said IT issues, I'd ask to talk with their IT department. Its not difficult to get IT to install trusted, open-source software.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You're delusional or only deal with very low stakes because frankly if your costumer is a 1000+ employee company on industries like banking and whatnot you'll just lose the customer right there.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 10 months ago

Sometimes you have to do what is right instead of what brings you the most money