That's stupid logic, if you don't want weapons manufacturing to increase you stop increasing it. The thread is about european leaders wanting to ramp up weapons not decreasing them

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So not manufacturing weapons will somehow stop Russia?

[–] citizen@normalcity.life 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure it will as there's a global race at arms. Russia has X weapons so we must have X+1, this degenerates to the point where you are spending all your money on destructive weapons and you have rockets in your garden waiting to be used. There are a thousand ways to fight off russia that don't involve manufacturing more explosive such as for example not closing an eye on countries like turkey and emirates providing a workaround to russia sanction but guess what? Producing more weapons is a much greater deal for european leaders

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're assuming that Russia doesn't have any imperialist aims and will simply magically turn peaceful once the evil, evil west stops manufacturing weapons

[–] citizen@normalcity.life 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I assume every nation with an army have imperialist aims

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's certainly a take. So eg. Finland is an imperialist country because we have a military, which is definitely not meant to just keep the Russians from rolling over the border and doing a Ukraine / Georgia / Chechnya to us. I take it your view is that if we or the Georgians or Ukrainians didn't have a military, we wouldn't be in any danger?

[–] citizen@normalcity.life 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes finland is just as imperialistic as the others they just are not in position to invade anyone. You don't need an army to defend yourself from someone, people can defend themself much better without someone above them punishing them if they don't follow authoritarian orders.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org -1 points 10 months ago

Spot the anarchist. What's an anarchist defensive force look like anyways?