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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I think if he tries that, the US breaks down as there is no way everyone will go with it.

Trump winning is a win for the enemies of the US and a win for the enemies of the wider free world.

Edit: Add a few words for clarity.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump winning is a win for the enemies of the US and the enemies of the wider free world.

Suddenly Trump sounds pretty good.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Honestly, I'm willing to let it happen just for the smug invertebrate liberal bootlickers to finally experience what liberals have been doing to every hood I lived in for the last 30 years. Fuck 'em, settler-descent crackers are not my countrymen, especially not if they think they're going to cudgel me into supporting a genocidal segregationist that already ripped my family apart more than once from '94 onwards.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 9 months ago

Trump winning is a win for the enemies of the US and the enemies of the wider free world.

really? sounds cool

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't planning on voting for trump, but when you put it that way....

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OK ok, I've edited to be more explicit. Though I'm sure everyone knew the interpretation I meant...

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Then let me be more explicit, too: Amerika tore my family apart across four hundred years of its history, continues to tear my family apart, refuses to cede my people actual liberation and freedom, and still demands our support like they're not STILL interring us in prison chattel slavery or extrajudicially executing us in the streets.

What the blue donkeyfuck makes you think I'm an ally of this shithole? What the blue donkeyfuck makes you think I'm going to exert ANY effort in perpetuating this monstrous, genocidal hell? Biden and Trump will do the same shit; so to me? The only way either of them can hang is with a rope.

[–] doingless@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's true but Biden winning accomplishes the same. No this isn't a both sides argument, it's understanding that many outside nations have invested in dividing our nation politically. The only win would be a 3rd party win and that won't happen in my lifetime.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is a both sides argument. Trump is a new level of bad. If you want to have any chance of a future with a better political system, you want to keep Trump out. If you don't vote Biden, you can't complain if you get Trump.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump is only a "new level of bad" to liberals that weren't paying attention before.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

See if you still feel like if he gets in and does things like taking measures to stay in longer than another single term, withdraw from NATO and the UN.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

withdraw from NATO and the UN

why do you keep making him sound cool? trump won't do any of these things if he's elected

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's really not cool. It's basically says to Europe "your on your own with Russia". And to Russia "Go ahead, we won't fight you." Which means Putin will go further than invading Ukrainian. Which mean the EU has to go to war to call his Bluff. You could be looking at WWIII. The US will get sucked in regardless of how isolationist it wants to be. Just like WWI and WWII. So not cool to go pushing over dominoes of the post WWII world order. Especially dumb as the US has benefited a lot from said order.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Especially dumb as the US has benefited a lot from said order.

Yeah, I wonder why people want the "rules-based international order" to end, maybe it's because they're the ones on the shit end of the stick?

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago

Well I guess we will see what happens and hope it's not world war again. If it is, we all lose.