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EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them (www.theatlantic.com)

submitted 5 months ago by boem@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

“Unlike gas-powered engines—which are made up of thousands of parts that shift against one other—a typical EV has only a few dozen moving parts. That means less damage and maintenance, making it easier and cheaper to keep a car on the road well past the approximately 200,000-mile average lifespan of a gas-powered vehicle. And EVs are only getting better. “There are certain technologies that are coming down the pipeline that will get us toward that million-mile EV,” Scott Moura, a civil and environmental engineer at UC Berkeley, told me. That many miles would cover the average American driver for 74 years. The first EV you buy could be the last car you ever need to purchase.“

No way a car would last me and my family 74 years. First year I owned my car I put on almost 35k. Was driving 100 miles back and forth to work at that time. We typically take a road trip from colorado to near Vermont every year for a vacation.

A lot of midwesterns will drive 14 hours to get some where

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

At best case 60 miles an hour... Your commute was more than 90 mins? Ugh. That's awful.

You weren't clear if that was round trip or not, so possibly more than 180 mins? How did you find time to sleep!?

[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the San Francisco Bay Area, it's not uncommon for people that work here but can't afford to live here to have commutes of over an hour with good traffic (2+ hours with heavy traffic) each way. That's the case in a few major metro areas in countries like the USA and Australia.

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[–] asret@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago

Sure, there's always going to be outliers. Most people live and work in the same metropolitan area though - they're not driving 50,000km+ a year. Besides, having a vehicle with 5 times the effective lifetime is going to be a big win regardless of how much you drive it.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago

Surely the free market and competition will deliver what customers want, right? ... Right?!?

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think people need to start being educated about how their climate influences how they can use the electric car. Many people know if they live by the sea or where roads are salted that corrosion is an issue. But people might not be aware that with some EVs, they should leave it plugged in if they're in an extreme climate, so the car can air condition or heat the battery. I caused some battery degradation to my Volt because I wasn't able to leave it plugged in living in Tucson.

[–] the_third@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is too general of a statement. I have three EVs in my family, none of them do any temp condition of the battery just by being plugged in. However, EVCC turns off the wallbox when they reach 75% SoC and there is no appointment that day in our shared calendar. Sitting at high SoCs kills batteries, especially in warm climates.

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[–] Evehn@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

I had already read of the first teslas model S getting to 1M km with ordinary maintenance alone, so it should be pretty easy to achieve. Of course it won't be done as it wouldn't be profitable.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

Obviously they wont "let" them. Why would they ever do that? They have to be made to do it. But I hope i'm wrong, we will see.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would be wonder if they last forever and easly could be repaired. Making it better to keep the car then buy a new one. It just need to be upgradedable to the latest standards that might be more safe, efficient and agree with current law.

But I am pretty that would never exist - too hard.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

There's not much room for improvement in terms of efficiency for EVs, except maybe lower rolling resistance tyres and better aero. You generally have to replace the whole car for better aero though unless you don't mind having some bolt on mods 😂

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"EVs won't last nearly forever."

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

power density just needs to grow until someone can easily kit-swap a range of battery and motor options into any platform - then we can ev-ify whatever we want to drive around.

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