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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago

Windows is malware Jfc

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Windows users should be outraged.

We're at a point where a company makes an operating system used by a majority of the population while they force you to use your personal online account to log in, and they record everything you do on screen and collect an obscene amount of other information about you.

Picture MS getting breached in a couple years. What would that look like for you, the individual? Do you really trust all these screenshots are also locally stored? I doubt it. If they are today, do you trust they always will be?

[–] kippinitreal@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Absolutely, however I think there is indifference or complacency in lay tech users. It might help open a few eyes if shown effects in peoples personal lives. For example, asking have you been getting obscene number of spam/robo-calls? That's because your info was either stolen or sold by the company's you shared it with. That would make the effect hit home better I think.

I remember when there was news that Facebook was listening to your conversations and suggesting ads when you logged in. Even if untrue it creeped people out, some even quitting Facebook entirely. Maybe something like that can happen with MS and they back off. Or better yet we legislate the shit out of tech companies, follow the EU way.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I can't help but feel the individual direct consequences to be like pretty small to the institutional risks.

Imagine China all of a sudden getting access to all the trade secrets of US companies that still ran MS. Imagine Russia gaining full access to all the government, health, educational data of every single US citizen. Or imagine something like the recent fuckup of google deleting the entire cloud of one financial institutions. Imagine MS to fuck up royally and all consumer facing computers in all banks to be broken for three weeks...

All of these are not immediately targeting the individual directly, but they can be extremely destructive to a nation or even globally as a whole.

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[–] voluble@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Before this is all over, MS will be charging users to extract their snapshots from a proprietary cloud-only one drive account. The recovery process will take about 3 hours, and involve scrolling through ai-authored help articles that don't lay out clearly and methodically how to access the old snapshots. The comments on the help articles will begin with "Hello sir, can you confirm that you have followed the steps at this link?". The link, before delivering you to an irrelevant solution, will shunt you to a landing page that forces you to log into your microsoft account before you can see the answer.

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[–] Senseless@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

We noticed this a few months back. There are still other workarounds.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have and use a Microsoft account. I would always setup my computer offline because I don't want my home folder to be called "myema"~~il@email.com~~

Seriously who thought that was a good idea? Your account literally has your name tied to it, call it that!

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

I just checked with a bunch of corporate entities and they ALL agree this was a great idea so it seems you are the odd one out that thinks it's not a good idea perhaps.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The enshitification intensifies; the rate appears to have become exponential. This one is a deal breaker for me. I want to buy or use an OS that is my OS. I do not want any login beyond what I deem necessary for security purposes. Everything you and the software that runs on your computer does is loggable at the OS level. I don't want an email address bound to all that. Fuck Microsoft.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are really trying to push people to Linux aren't they?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At this rate the user base will go from 4% to 5%!

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Huh? What if you're installing windows on a machine with no internet connection? Which is an entirely normal legitimate thing to do. It's not a requirement after all.

I have a number of machines that use a local account, they don't need a Microsoft account and will never be linked to one, it's unnecessary.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had to do exactly this for a family friend in his 70s, it was a fucking nightmare. I think ultimately I caved and hotspotted it to my phone just long enough for it to be happy, and disconnected it while it was still loading the sign up page so it fell back to local account creation (at the time I didn't know about a@a or bypassnro)

[–] sachabe@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

There's this workaround that works well : https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account

It's definitely not for lambda users and a real pity that we have to resort to this, but it does the job (for now).

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[–] vocornflakes@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

Don't connect to the internet.

Open a cmd window with F10 (maybe it's shift-F10?) and type the following:

OOBE\\BYPASSNRO

You can thank me later.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

5 days too late; was setting up a new PC for a 10 year old, and we had to jump through all the hoops in the world in the terrible microS. family thing just so a kid can play minecraft bedrock edition.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah that Minecraft setup is ridiculous now, then you get ads.

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[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (33 children)

Why... Why does anyone have to do this bullshit? Leave windows l, everyone for the love of everything good, leave windows!

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I run some windows-only proprietary software. Realistically what's the performance like with Wine or whatever it is that emulates windows?

I run a lot of GPU accelerated CAD

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 0 points 5 months ago

This is the way.

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[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Congrats in building stalking software right into the OS.

A bunch of abusive relationships about to get a whole lot worse when the other party can track literally everything they do.

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