What tools are exactly missing which are commonly used on reddit?
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
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I think it’s a good question. There’s a real chance that there are at least some platform differences which lead to different moderation needs.
Nonetheless, it does seem to be the case that some UI improvements could go a long way, as the beehaw people have requested.
By the same token, these may not require too much work (?)
[Warning: I didn't read her full report yet.]
I agree that it's flawed. As of now, to my knowledge:
- users can report content and state the reason (e.g. "kgshkewq");
- moderators can read the reports;
- moderators can remove content, and ban users;
- admins can set up the registration method, to either "free for all" or manual approval.
It works in a small scale, but once it gets big enough, it'll become a mess.
However I don't agree with her IMHO dichotomic conclusion that "if you care about user safety, do not deploy either of these" (implication: "if you deploy either Lemmy or Kbin you don't care about user safety"). It's a more weighted decision that depends on:
- scale (how many users),
- how much do you think that people would be willing to moderate it (brute-forcing lack of mod tools)
- the nature of the group that you're trying to migrate (is it a marginalised group often attacked by society? or just a bunch of randoms sharing meme?)
Plus discouraging people from migrating creates a chicken-and-egg problem. Open source projects rely a lot on user contributions; specially for code. If both Kbin and Lemmy are used enough then someone will eventually code the missing tools.
Yea. There might be a little hypocrisy here in failing to compare lemmy to where mastodon was at times of large growth. Slightly more subtle language with some suggestions and insights as to where things might go would probably have been more helpful.
That being said, it is super awesome that thisismissem, a mastodon dev primarily, is reaching out across platforms and advocating for platform-generic tooling for important tasks. They didn’t need to do this, but it surely moves the needle forward, and cross-platform collaboration or discussion is certainly a good thing.