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[–] Melody@lemmy.one 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This Is Blatant Misinformation; which appears to intend to spread Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Please stop swallowing every stupid conspiracy theory that seems plausible to you. Just because it appears plausible is no reason to believe in it

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

It always feels like the people simping for big federal govt power over things are always the same people who are out here decrying any alternatives to mainstream shit. The charged writing style, the language, the tone - One for One.

I believe in research and science and the writing disciplines that come with that. If you can't write up your opinion without sounding like a MSM outlet (either left or right, doesn't matter - as an example, the constant use of "oligarch,") I don't believe it's going to be a factually based opinion.

There's nothing substantial in this article, just conjecture.

[–] kjake@infosec.pub 20 points 1 year ago

someone trying to sell more copies of their book…cool story bro

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's open source so you can literally check yourself.

It doesn't matter who funded it if it works right?

You think government agencies have no use for secure communication technology?

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

No, it is not completly open source, server is not client is, but client is using google services so... not great you can not have it completely clean.

Adding to that that Moxi is not really friendly to comunity requests, as can be seen on various issues on guthub, I wouldn't call it prime example of free software.

And truth is that financial side was never clear enough, it can be just someone being careful and understandably wanting to stay anonymous, buy I couldn't find any lies in linked article. Except title which, of course, can not be proven, but we can allow some clickbite, that's how this internet business works.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 1 year ago

The thing about threats, and security, is it isn't about intent. It doesn't matter where the money came from. It's about capabilities. What can your adversary do. That's all that matters. Doesn't matter what they will do, just what they can do.

So funding by your adversary isn't a problem. Because you have to pay attention to capabilities regardless of the funding source.

Things I would like to see signal do to remove any taint from historical funding, keep the server open source and keep the updated source published, don't store encryption keys in the cloud. Don't trust SGX vaults. Or at least allow people to opt out of them.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Even if this is true, I can still believe that it’s a secure platform. It seems that the people funding this would have a need for software like this.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

From 2021. And yes, hype for the new at the time book.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will be interesting read to you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG

People downvote ideas, article is good and clear and we should be careful.

Hating conspiracy theories does not make them nonexistent, wether this one is true or not we can not know, but reminds us to think critically.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At least there's one person who doesn't go off the rails as if just told people to stop using Tor or Signal. Appreciate! 🙏

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... Tor is founded and probably maintained by US intelligence

The core principle of Tor, onion routing, was developed in the mid-1990s by United States Naval Research Laboratory employees, mathematician Paul Syverson, and computer scientists Michael G. Reed and David Goldschlag, to protect American intelligence communications online.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140329174719/http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-23/tor-anonymity-software-vs-dot-the-national-security-agency

People are against some ideas that are not even conspiracy theories, but just facts.

Same people hate on Snowden and Musk but trust them without questioning when embracing some random product.

Thank you for sharing some opinion that is not part of official media campaign, I hoped (and stil hope) lemmy will be more open-minded, but currently not by much.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I could've provided a bit more information on my own take on the link I submitted though. Thanks for being supportive!

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