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So I've realized that in conversations I'll use traditional terms for men as general terms for all genders, both singularly and for groups. I always mean it well, but I've been thinking that it's not as inclusive to women/trans people.

For example I would say:

"What's up guys?" "How's it going man?" "Good job, my dude!” etc.

Replacing these terms with person, people, etc sounds awkward. Y'all works but sounds very southern US (nowhere near where I am located) so it sounds out of place.

So what are some better options?

Edit: thanks for all the answers peoples, I appreciate the honest ones and some of the funny ones.

The simplest approach is to just drop the usage of guys, man, etc. Folks for groups and mate for singular appeal to me when I do want to add one in between friends.

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] BillSchofield@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I sound even more southern than I am because I say "y'all" frequently to avoid gendered pronouns. People, you, and we are often good. I think my favorite is "you folks".

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Guys is probably the most neutral of the ones you mentioned.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Potential litigants

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Earthling...Terran - I don't care how awkward it sounds. It's awkward for me to change might as well make it awkward for everyone.

Edit: just me being cranky... Normally I go out of my way to make people feel accepted.

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[–] BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

I like what they use on the Bananas Podcast. "Guys, gals, and non-binary pals."

[–] Robotunicorn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

It depends on who you’re talking to. Many people don’t care about saying “guys” as it’s so universal. However, if you’re unsure or meeting new people, that’s where you’d likely want to change it up.

Hey friends! (This can be used for strangers too) What’s happening my peeps? Hello everyone! Hope you both have a good weekend

Or just What’s up? Hiya! Hey [insert their name]

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I tend to use "folks" for my usual gender-neutral collective pronoun.

I don't think "dude" is a real issue, is it? Here in Australia, I'll happily use mate for any gender, and I often hear other genders do the same.

Of course, we also tend to unnecessarily shorten (or lengthen) people's names here, and those always get used:

  • Darren = Daz or Dazza
  • Josh = Josho
  • Dan = Danno or Danny-boy
  • Adam = Ads
  • [first name] Thompson = Tommo
  • [first name] Johnson - Jonno

Even our Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, is Albo. You get the idea... ;)

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People here are not understanding that language changes with location

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[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

"YOU PEOPLE" 😂 I'm kidding

[–] Crankpork@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

"Hey gang!"

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