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Overall enjoyed the show, especially the last few eps! Some of the writing gets really sloppy though and it bothers the shit out of me (EP 3??).
Curious if S2 will focus on Juliette or the silo or a mixture? Anyone know if the books worth reading?
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Also was it just me or when Juliette told Bernard about the door under the silo he seemed intrigued as if he didn't know about it?? :::
The books are absolutely worth the read. One of my favorite series ever. Also, the only series that I felt lied to as a reader. What I mean by that is that I was hinted towards certain theories, but got tricked by the author. Not that he did lie, but the twists and real truth were very unexpected. I absolutely loved it.
This is spoiler-ish, but the sequel books follow another main character as well. Kinda switching between two viewpoints. So i assume the show will do the same. There are some changes from the books to TV but the author was very involved with the show and agreed with all the changes. He did an AMA on reddit before episode 1 aired. I'm very happy with this adaptation.
I've looked into the books and it looks like each book is a different part of time, but I've also heard that this 1st season hasn't concluded the first book yet, is that true?
TV show hasn't quite caught up to the end of the first book yet, but it's close. And I think this is actually a better end for the first season than trying to match the book.
From what I could tell the books were released somewhat piecemeal, more like a bunch of little novellas, and were compiled into the three main books later.
Sort of.
It's been a few years since I read the books. Juliets story stays in the current time. The second main character starts in the past and slowly moves forward with each chapter. So his first chapter is X year, then the next is 3 months later, then a year, etc.
I don't actually remember exactly where the first book stopped, I thought it stopped with the reveal of the other silos. But I could certainly be wrong.
Yeah I agree, Bernard looked shocked to hear about the other door.
The shot where Julia is looking back from the hill and the crowd is reunited in the cafeteria is top-notch. By the way, how the hell did she discovered the tape solution? If I'm not mistaken, they don't explain that part. Maybe I missed some details.
Because Juliette stole IT tapes and then complained to Margo about how salty IT was, even when their tape is trash compared with their own.
in the book...
spoiler
she realized the tape she requisitioned/stole was "designed to fail". This lead her to the broader idea that the entire suit was designed to fail.
Here I was thinking they poisoned the suit respirators to kill the cleaners but this last episode made it clear the tape was the weak link in the suit.
That's funny. I though the same thing too! Poison in the respirators, and the tape switch was to get a worse seal to give her time to get out of the suit. There i was, saying "come on, get it off!" right up until the birds came flying...
I had it all backwards 😂
I read the books about 10 years ago and loved them. Fantastic series. It's been great watching the series and experiencing the story again. The cliffhangers in the last 2-3 episodes were a tad annoying, but I thought the closing shot of the finale was a nice balance.
Looking forward to Season 2. IIRC in the books there was a huge time jump, so not sure what they'll be doing.
I'm started to read the books, but just finished Holston chapters. Was surprised how the book didn't had any ambiguity about the true of the outside comparing with the show.
Agreed. I read Wool for the first time a couple weeks ago and watched the first 2 episodes just to see that storyline in live action, and was really disappointed by the lack of the reveal.
There is a time jump, more of a "flashback"
So - did any of you see it yet? What do you think?
I might not watch S2. My petty gripes:
I found the casting uneven: original sheriff (Holston), Marnes, and Walker were superb, Juliette not always convincing (I get it, she was EP so you what are you going to do?), and both Tim Robbins and Common so wooden they took me right out of the story every time they were in a scene. Ugh.
Soundtrack and intro visuals treading too close to Westworld. The intro wasn't so intrusive because it's a standalone segment, but the Westworld-y soundtrack themes kept stealing my attention.
On the upside: the spiral stairs and cafeteria / cleaning ramp scenes were evocative and convincing.
I'm more interested in S2 of Severance than S2 of Silo. And more interested in the upcoming Murderbot books than either of them. :-)
What does EP mean?
Also, I didn't know they were adapting Murderbot. That should be fun.
What does EP mean?
Executive Producer
I didn’t know they were adapting Murderbot. That should be fun.
The books have such a specific in tone that it might not translate well. I'm not a "books > movies" purist but this one has me a little worried.
What a great finale. Between Severance, Ted Laso, CODA, and now Silo, AppleTV content has been top notch.
::: Spoiler Warning So was the only reason they showed the fake beautiful word to induce people to clean the camera? Was it to give the cleaners a nice send off? I’m confused as to why they would trick the cleaners at all when the screen showed reality. :::
Either way, I’m excited for the next season!
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They tricked the cleaners with the artificial view in their suit, exactly so that they would clean the sensor to show people in the Silo how nice it was outside.
I think it was also so that they would clean, meander, and die before they could make it over the hill.
"Nobody intends to, but everybody does"
I just finished season 1 as well, enjoyed it quite a bit. The wait between seasons is a killer though.
Yeah Apple TV are terrible with releases, is Severance even in the calendar yet?
I believe Severance was about to start filming season 2 when the writer’s strike started. Lots of good shows like this one might have an extra 6-12 months between seasons. ☹️
The strike wasn't the only problem though. There's apparently been quite some trouble between the show runner and head writer, I believe, that delayed the production even before the strike.
Really hoping it doesn't show in the final product. Season 2 of Severance is my most anticipated seasons of a TV show for years.
Ah yes, good point.
Rebecca Ferguson was fantastic in season 1. What a great casting choice.
Her acting was excellent but her accent was all over the place. I like her. She's good in Dune, too. I don't remember noticing her accent one way or other in that. I'm going to read the books and I'm looking forward to S2.
Yeah, I noticed it as well. Some of the more forceful/emotional lines had the accent slip. I figure those takes are hard to reshoot.
Anyway as soon as I saw her father was Ser Jorah, I knew where she got the accent from. 😂
silo has got to be my favourite show on apple tv right now. unfortunately i s2 is going to take a while to land. considering reading the books just keep things fresh in my head.
theories & questions:
some questions:
Regarding your last question, I think it's "just" a totalitarian approach to not wanting people researching too much on their own and gathering to much knowledge about how things work and in the end being able to develop unwanted skills.
My biggest disappointment with the show so far, was learning that the 10th episode was the season finale. 😅
That finale was a hell of a send off. I read the books some time ago and I felt this was a really good adaption. It’s going to be a long wait for S2!
Yeah, the wait will be long. But I'm happy that it seems filming has already begun!
Those fuckers are gonna make me read the manga
That's how you do the end of a season in a mystery show, they gave a conclusive answer to the overarching question of the season, and then asked a new question with greater scope. Obviously they are benefitting immensely from having everything already mapped out in the books but they still deserve credit for the execution.
Frekkin loved it! I have questions though:
Can't wait for the next season!
From what I can gather.
-Holston is dead. The helmets are modified to play a video to trick them into taking off their helmet. What you see on the monitors in the silo is real. The air is bad.
-Juliet noticed the video in the helmet by the birds flying at the same time from the video she saw on the hard drive. Confirmed it was a fake by putting the badge on holston through the projected/illusion of a rock there.
-The suits were designed to fail. The tape they use was trash and they knew it in supply, who had better tape, which appears to be what makes the suit air tight. Supply slipped her the word that they were swapping the tape on her suit. Which is why Juliet lived and put 2:2 together with, “supply knows best “ or whatever.
I'm willing to bet that the big door at the bottom is access to the other silos.
I'm also quite sure that Holston is probably dead. Along with everyone else, that went outside.
I had this thought last night, after seeing the finale. What if the other silos are open to each other, and only Silo 18 (I'm guessing it the number based on the key to the mainframe having number 18 on it) is closed off / isolated? Maybe because of it being the origin of the rebellion? As some sort of sanction. Or maybe to contain The Syndrome - whatever that even is.
I know it's far fetched. But who knows? (Other than the millions of people who've read the books, of cause ;-))
Ooo I like this. Another though is maybe they had an accident with the drilling or just happen to be on bad part of the water table so the silo flooded and cut off access.
Alternatively could be like some fallout nonsense where one silo was selected to be isolated.
I don’t think most, even Bernard, who’s in the know more than most, knew about the door or the bottom of the silo. Which is weird.
It struck me that Bernard clearly didn't know about the door. His reaction when Jules mentioned looked quite a bit like surprise.
OH my, I'm looking forward to next season
I just finished the finale - really enjoyed it but there's one thing that slightly bugs me about the end.
question
Why are the bodies not visble in the "beautiful world" AR feed? Surely this would be an immediate giveaway to both Holston and Juliette that what they're seeing is not real as they both have seen the bodies on the screen and would want to find them quickly? Is it just all relying on the 'shock' of seeing the green world that makes them not think about it?
possible answer
If you were convinced that the display inside the silo was fake, would you take for granted that the bodies were real? I don't think I would. I would probably assume that the bodies were part of the fake display, and that the real Holstons were alive and well.
It was a great finale, and a great season. It’s going to be a tough and long wait for Season 2, given the writer’s strike.
I wonder if the other siloes are basically dead, and their particular silo is the only one still operating (mostly) normally. I also wonder what city is in the background at the end. Can’t wait !
I’m guessing Atlanta based on the travel book
They started filming in June.
Saw this comment pretty late. Lemmy has been acting up - sorry! But while the wait will be hard and all, filming has already begun, so I don't hope the writers strike has done too much in that regard :-)