Linux

Been on Wayland since 2016 and to this day my only issues (apart from when I had an Nvidia card for a few months, that is...) was video sharing in Discord/steam in-home streaming, both of which still don't work right.

Other than that, it's been great. Multi-monitor works way better, far fewer bugs, my desktop feels a lot more fluid and smooth.

On laptops, Wayland+Gnome gestures are exceptional, putting even Apple's gestures to shame. I cannot stress enough how good of a job Gnome+Wayland does with trackpad gestures. It makes other gesture systems, especially ones under X11, feel like they were cobbled together by a Fallout 3 modder.

Overall Wayland has been great for me. I just wish Discord would fix their shitty app.

Been using Wayland since 3'ish years ago and my desktop experience has been really smooth -- no crashes, errors or anything of the sort. Everything "just werks" just as if I were on Xorg instead. Even on a completely obscure/zero linux support single board computer (Orange pi zero 3).

I've been using Wayland daily for a few years (2020 at least?) on intel and AMD graphics and have had few complaints:

1. Some games didn't work right a few years ago. (Under Proton or otherwise. Haven't had issues for a while)
2. RenderDoc, a vital bit of graphics debugging software, works poorly on Wayland. (Easy fix is to force X11 for QT via QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb)
3. Had some issues with mixed integrated/NVidia graphics on a laptop I was using for a demo once.
4. Covering or otherwise hiding a Wayland window blocks a program's graphics thread. This is sometimes problematic.
5. VR development had issues a while ago? (This was for work. It just... stopped working at some point. Dunno if it was a Linux, SteamVR, or Unity3D issue. My work machine mostly runs Windows 10 now as a result. Oh well.)
6. Screen recording didn't work well a while ago... (continued)

Overall, it's just worked great though!

My anti-complaints:

1. Mixed refresh rates on monitors "just works" now. (I have a 1080@144 for gaming, and a 4k@60 for work)
2. Video frames don't have half drawn content. (ex: when resizing windows), except on XWayland stuff
3. Video tearing has basically disappeared.
4. Video timing issues seem to be improved.
5. Input handling for keyboard layouts has improved.
6. Screen recording in Wayland is way better than it ever was on X11 now. I do this a lot to share gamedev stuff I'm working on.

My experience with Nvidia+ Wayland was... Less than desirable. Enough to make me pickup an AMD card.

However, once I did that my experience instantly better. Hell, even X11 worked better - I was never able to get the desktop to stay at a consistent 60FPS (I'm still on a 60Hz panel which I'm just now getting around to upgrading shortly) in X until I moved to my AMD card.

The 545 driver update just made things so much worse. So I'd say Wayland+Nvidia is not great (for others it works fine so maybe it's down to what card you have?) however on my AMD card (and my old MacBook with Intel integrated graphics) it's fantastic.

I wouldn't say it breaks everything. Franky it fixes / handles better issues that are common usecases today that was not the case during the time X11 was still the norm / actively maintained such as:

• Multiple monitor support with varied refresh rates
• Hybrid GPU setup (including being able to use your motherboard's hdmi socket and your dedicated gpu hdmi at the same time)
• Display scaling
• Better isolation of applications (to the deterrence of existing linux applications)

Of course granted its a new protocol, it doesn't support all the usecases that X11 was designed for due to variety or reasons (including controversial decisions)

Mind you, Wayland isn't perfect either. For example, I found out that despite Wayland having better Hybrid GPU setup support out of the box, there are applications that ended up having broken multi-gpu support (where the application in question can choose which gpu it would utilize for its processing) where it works fine X11.

With the state of the hardware we are having, it is understandable why distros have been focused on pushing Wayland as the default, although honestly, it would be wise for these distros to not completely phase out x11 because currently, Wayland isn't perfect.

Quite literally, the only problem or "stuff broken because or Wayland" is some old ass apps or lazy companies that won't update their electron version. Looking at you discord, screen sharing COULD WORK if you managed your stuff

Wayland != X11

Not 100% feature compatible != broken.

My opinion and also a TL;DR: of the article.

“not everything is fully ported yet”

“There will probably be an awkward period before all of these pieces are in place for all of the people.”

I think these are the two key takeaways – Wayland is still in development and the bandwagoning are the early adopters – most of us will switch when our distros switch (and will probably be none the wiser)

the problems (and the reason we’re suffering through sensationalist stuff like “Wayland breaks everything!”) is the fanboy push to switch before it’s ready – not everybody lives on the bleeding edge (just like not everyone runs Arch) and the “switch now or be left behind” attitude does more harm than good (far more likely to alienate than convert) …

I have been using wayland on kde the last two years on Debian and MX Linux with zero issues. My general usa includes coding, music production, Libre office and web browsing. So, no much gaming, if that is your concern.

I’ve been using Wayland sessions as default since plasma 5.22 came around, and with other window managers before that too. Everything that has ever been broken for me, was broken because of X11 or XWayland. I’d rather take a considerably better experience with an occasional issue, that an experience that is held together by candy wrappers and hot glue, and is widely considered obsolete

Xorg has no fractonal scaling so I have been uaing wayland since I have switched to linux on nvidia and yes I use it for gaming. Not silky smooth but great so far.

Same topic, original article linked in post description. https://lemmy.ndlug.org/post/523560