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I'm really enjoying lemmy. I think we've got some growing pains in UI/UX and we're missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn't going to be free. Can someone with actual server experience chime in with some back of the napkin math on how expensive it would be if everyone migrated from Reddit?

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[โ€“] octet33@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, Lemmy is decentralized. You don't need to have an account on an instance (server) to use that instance's "subreddits" (communities) - instances communicate their activity to each other automatically, so any instance will do (provided the instances haven't banned each other). It's just like email.

So it's pretty simple to just stop accepting sign-ups once an instance starts to become impractically large. Anyone can start an instance for just the cost of a domain ($10ish/year, or free if it's a subdomain of an existing website) and a server (that random computer you already have lying around will do just fine, for free). And a small instance can do fine on just donations and the good will of the operator.

[โ€“] BillTheTailor@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apropos of nothing, where are you finding domains for $10/year?

[โ€“] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean inflation might have hit them a little bit but dot coms have always been around $10 in my mind. Other TLDs can vary but you can get good deals through promotions sometimes.

Were only talking about the address here.

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[โ€“] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I plan on donating the price of Reddit Premium to my instance owner

[โ€“] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Whenever he figures out donations that is :))

I don't know what kinda person happens to have a massive server cluster sitting around waiting to go, but @TheDude is the dude, and the dude abides.

[โ€“] Heraldique@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the price is spread out across multiple generous people that generously host instances. I think it really depends on how much members there are. From what I heard my instance is 25 $ a month. Another instance I was in on Mastodon cost a few hundreds bucks to run. This is why it is good to help out your fellow admins. On the other hand, lemmy and other fediverse software are open source, so they don't really have to pay for developpers. Also the scope of what lemmy or Mastodon do is considerably smaller that Facebook, Twitter and the likes. Facebook isn't just a social media, it's a spying engine and an ad recommendation platform, Lemmy and mastodon are just social medias, so of course it costs less to do.

[โ€“] this@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yup. On Facebook/Twitter the product isn't the content, its a whole shitload of agregated personal data of the users and advertisements that use said data to target the users, so its only natural that these companies would be spending ludicrous amounts of money finding new ways to collect and parse that data.

[โ€“] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Since it's distributed, the cost doesn't even compare to a centralized instance. It's really hard to say how much it would cost to host everyone across the fediverse, but because of decentralization, it'll be a hell of a lot easier to achieve.

[โ€“] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Really, the only direct cost of lemmy is the development. That's the beauty of lemmy's decentralized nature, the cost of actually running it is spread out among tech hobbyists with spare hardware and time (edit: and only ~$30/year or less for a domain name), or may even have some money to throw at new hardware. For most people, the connectivity doesn't incur any additional cost to whatever they're already paying for internet access.

There are plenty of free and excellent open source projects that neither charge money or generate profits, they're driven by passionate developers who give their and talent for the enjoyment of it and betterment of the community.___

[โ€“] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Hell, I'm already practically wasting a few domains already as is. Maybe some day I'll set up a subdomain with my own instance.

[โ€“] Lemon_Man@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

sell checkmarks like Tumbler.

for x$ a month get a checkmark next to your name on posts. in whatever colours you pay for. buy checkmarks for others.

[โ€“] Debs@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would the checkmark mean?

[โ€“] petriborg@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Just that you support the lemmy community.

[โ€“] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

ร  la tumblr

[โ€“] fratermus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

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[โ€“] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

IMO it sounds like that some AI corporation should host their own instance(s). They only pay for server and maintenance costs, while community does the rest and they have their data.

Would be best of both worlds, isn't it? Once they become greedy, we are f*cked again, just like Reddit did...

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