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There is no inherent purpose.
Everyone has to figure out their own purpose
For me, the purpose is to experience life. The good, the bad, everything.
As an aside, happiness is a carrot / stick game. Evolution has ensured that its unobtainable for any length of time.
You're better off seeking contentment.
The purpose of human life is to submit ourselves to the Idea.
The purpose of life, is understanding.
Elemental bits of unconscious soul-awareness want to have their own experiencings, so they get caught in conceptions/lives, and have, at first, unconscious experiencings ( like a mass-of-bacteria or something ), and eventually that particular soul/atman evolves until it accidentally coincides with a human-category-life, and then, suddenly, it has self-determination/free-will/significant-karma, so now it becomes a pinball in the Universe-game...
Being fired around by the meanings it emitted into Universe, it tries applying unconsciousness-answers, and they just make things worse...
Eventually, it has reabsorbed sooo many meanings, that it becomes understanding/wise, and it realizes that this birth/striving/sickness/death cycle seems deranged, and desiring this endless cyclical-process is deranged, so it begins earning the yogas of mind, meaning, will, intent, etc, and then earns its ability to lift itself from the whole-process, up into aware-nonengaging, which is called "Blissful Clear Light" awareness, and it can simply dissolve into OceanOfAllAwakeSouls, seeing an endless-stream of Universes go by, every one crammed with unconscious & semi-conscious souls/atmans, who haven't yet earned their dissolving-into-the-ocean-of-AWARENESS that religious-types call "God", and .. all souls Realize.
Endless stream of countless souls, each getting its own cycle-of-lives, reaping what it sowed, no matter how many "lives" ago the sowing-of-that-meaning was...
the processing is perfectly efficient.
The Christian bible's "Jacob's Ladder" was a depiction of souls climbing "down" into matter & "up" from unconsciousness...
The Christian bible's "Prodigal Son" parable was about an individual soul/atman doing its down/up process: when it got fed-up with the false-answers, it turned within ( remember the root-guru of Christianity told them "The Kingdom of God is Within", telling them to be meditating ), and "climbing the inner-mountain", to use a buddhist phrase...
The Abrahamic religions use baptism to symbolize a soul immersing itself in unconsciousness & matter, then coming up/out of its unconsciousness...
The thing is, souls who haven't experienced anything, want to experience their meanings, and have their understandings, but they can't believe that "suffering" or "harm" etc are "real", so they dive-in, and try holding to symbols, which, of course, doesn't work...
Again, the Christian bible has an excellent symbol representing the truth:
in Revelations, John is given the Book Of Truth to eat, and he eats it, and it is syrupy-sweet in his face, but bitter in his belly, exactly as Truth itself is:
Symbolic-"truth" is naive/sweet, but real Truth is bitter, hard-earned, good aversion-therapy.
So, what to do, then?
Face into karma, face into one's evolution, as human-category-lives are extraordinarily-rare in Universe, so make maximal use of what glorious opportunity you've got.
Mom brought me up Catholic, but I experienced some memories that didn't even fit human-category-life, and, years-later, discovered they were soul-memories of other kinds of lives, which blew-up all the Abrahamic-religions, for me.
Want to get a hornet/wasp/bee out of your home?
Their sentience loves swimming ( it feels like swimming: sentience feels wet, in that kind of life ) into luminance & openness, so, simply darken/block all the ways you don't want 'em going, and light up where you do want them going, and make certain that no scent is overriding their free-will, and they should leave your home.
That method doesn't work with other families of insects, btw, so the experience-induced-understanding I gained from that soul-memory doesn't work for representing any other kind of 'em.
Buddha Gautama Shakyamuni was right about fish being really mentally-limited: if you want your soul's next life to be something other than human, go for the hive-insects, as they have awesome amounts of awareness for such teensy brains.
We only exist as temporary "clothes" that the souls underlying our lives are "wearing".
Learning/understanding is the whole point of everything.
The desire-for-experiencing of souls is what drives evolution: when that energy expires, the population/culture/civilization/species collapses.
It's simple, and "our kind" isn't the center of the Universe, as the various Abrahamic religions all insist we are ( in spite of evidence ).
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Facing into karma, gently but relentlessly pushing oneself to evolve, to see just how competent/complete one can become, to experience as much meaning as one can, within one's meagre years, you know?
Evolution, internalized.
Among our kind there are 3 dimensions/layers/substances of mind:
- SurfaceMind, which dissipates every few hours
- underlying-LifeMind, which begins forming at conception, and shatters in death
- underlying-the-LifeMind Soul/CellOfGod/Atman/ChildOfGod/Rigpa, that ALL lives have driving them, until they die, when it detaches/goes-its-own-way...
Huston Smith's brilliant & profound book "World Religions" gave much of this, in its Hindu & Buddhist chapters, btw, in case you want some source who is established.
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