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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 115 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First sale doctrine should forbid this behavior entirely. Once you sold it it's not yours to disable.

The article doesn't say they are offering a refund or replacement phone approved for mexico frequencies... so this is a massive dick move.

Do the phones start to work again if operated outside of Mexico?

Bricking phones by geolocation is massively evil and we should do everything we can to discourage it.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Custom bootloaders, recovery and ROMs are more quickly going from a nerdy gimmick to a necessity.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the more surprising that Google of all brands makes it so easy to do on their devices

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of google doesnt care about ongoing hardware sales, so the software teams can do cool things.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsungs Fold devices lose their camera functionality if you custom root 😂

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extreme bummer. I am actually dreaming of getting a Fold. Maybe as custom ROMs develop, I am sure it's just they have not yet understood how to properly implement it.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Samsung has deliberately fucked the user.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

i have heard of custom Roms and even TWRP, but custom Bootloaders?!

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean i understand they wanna do something against unauthorized sellers, but fucking consumers in the process is wrong in any way.

It's a joke that a phone provider can lock phones remotely no matter what.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean i understand they wanna do something against unauthorized sellers, but fucking consumers in the process is wrong in any way.

Don't pay much attention to me, the end user (Mexican).... but... I have a crazy idea... what about lowering prices? :D

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you ever think about the rich shareholders who really need the extra money to buy another vacation home in Hawaii?

They realllyyyyyy needd theee moneeeey

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I am so inconsiderate.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

This is nauseating and shouldn’t be possible.

[–] romaselli@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Companies love the free market until they don't.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free for companies, not free for customers.There seems to be a difference.

[–] Aggy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We should all just start LLCs before we do anything. I am not a lawyer but that'll work right?

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Geoblocking everything while moving their hq to tax havens and don't pay shit.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know how Mexican laws about computer trespass work, but I think this would be a crime most places.

[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In US, it's sadly not as clear cut

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's normal in the US for companies to have rights and customers to not have rights.

[–] Nuwanda@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Devices purchased abroad for use in Mexico, though, will apparently not be disabled

How do they know where they purchased it?

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nuwanda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That might say where the phone is intended to be sold, not where they purchased. As I understood it, Motorola wants to ban foreign phones purchased in Mexico. How can they differentiate them from foreign phones purchased abroad?

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Different internal model number?

[–] Nuwanda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That says where the phone is intended to be sold, not where it's purchased. As I understood it, Motorola wants to ban foreign phones purchased in Mexico. How can they differentiate them from foreign phones purchased abroad?

[–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

When a phone is sold the unique number is submitted. This number is going to come from authorized dealer or an unauthorized dealer.

If a dealer in California submits that IME number, then they can differentiate that from a dealer in Mexico.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

30% Discount? You need to give the phone for free or for an extremely low shipment price.

This is a shit move to get money from more financially challenged people at that discount rate. It's not their fault they paid for something they need from an "unauthorized" sellers, and definitely a lot of people don't have the money to buy the phone again but from you.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As the article reads, seems like its more about Mexican regulation than anything else. Google doesnt stand to gain anything from that, only loss.

Also, easy enough to workaround.

[–] Alkatane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Do they know about that thanks to IMEI right?