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[–] Chuymatt@artemis.camp 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm… seems like Lenny has been discovered…

Check out these sources, folks.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I actually took the time to read through the article, now I wish I hadn't. The whole thing reads like a spy novel conspiracy theory so I had to look up the site... and sure enough, they are actually rated as very low on factual reporting based on their frequent conspiracy theories. I do find it interesting that their rating is also "Far-Left Biased",makes me feel like this whole article was an attempt to shift that back towards center.

Then again, it was also expected. OP posts at least one article a day weakly attempting to bash the Biden administration, so this is par for the course.

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The author appears to be credible: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

The theory in the article isn't even a new one, and hasn't been strongly dismissed.

Just because Biden is better than Trump doesn't mean he's a holy Saint. It's fair to be open to discussions even if you don't like what's being discussed.

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[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

attempting to bash the Biden administration

Attempting? This is the worst regime your loser country has had in a long time. Child poverty skyrocketing, aswell as child labour. A demented lifetime racist and misogynist figurehead pretending to run the place who doesn't want children "growing up in a racial jungle", a guy with a slew of very credible sexual assault allegations to his name.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The author's evidence is that he has none, therefore it's the perfect operation. Assertions presented without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's fair to be critical of Hersh's use of anonymous sources, but it was those same anonymous sources that enabled him to cover the so-called "weapons of mass destruction" and "nuclear materials" used to justify the invasion of Iraq. It's not like this article is coming from a journalistic non-entity. Hersh has a pretty stellar record as far as journalism uncovering government corruption.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

And the torture of prisoners in Iraq, as well.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is an article by Seymour Hersh. They adapted it verbatim from his substack: https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/a-year-of-lying-about-nord-stream

He has won multiple journalistic awards including Pulitzer. Not a good look for you that your immediate reaction on reading something that upsets you is to immediately hop on to a garbage website like mediabiasfactcheck to vindicate your fairytale biases without engaging in any critical analysis.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh the article upset me? Wow I'm glad you let me know, or I would have missed that! I actually said at the time that while it was a nice theory that Russia was trying to sway public opinion towards themselves, I didn't actually think they could pull off something like that. Keep in mind I never said the idea was crazy, just that I don't trust either the website nor the style in which this was written.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I am sorry. I genuinely thought you were upset that the OP posts articles that besmirch the veritable Biden administration since you jumped to grasping at straws like the writing style and the mediabiasfactcheck report instead of assessing the original source and author of the article which are usually much better indicators of reliability.

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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tell me you're young without telling me you're young.

Mint press is the publisher. The author is the important bit here. Sy Hersh is responsible for breaking lots of stories, and you should recognize his name.

He's probably the last of the independent journalists.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Sy Hersh has been criticized by a number of journalists for falling down a conspiracy rabbit hole in recent years, with his reporting on the nordstream attack being a major example.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I remember the same criticisms coming out when the torture story came out.

And then the images came out.

When you criticize the US, there are a lot of people that will insist that you're wrong, and crazy for thinking the US could ever do bad stuff.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Wow, talk about circular reasoning. You can't trust this because the guy has a history of being untrustworthy and your evidence is the thing in question. You're not even trying.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

No need for ageism.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Media bias / fact check for Mint Press News:

Overall, we rate Mint Press Far-Left Biased and Questionable based on the publication of conspiracy theories, pseudoscience anti-Israel propaganda, poor sourcing, failed fact checks, and false claims.

You got a better source for this, OP?

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seymour Hersh is an award-winning journalist who's well-known for uncovering rampant government corruption. His record includes coverage of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, Saudi support for al-Qaeda leading up to 9/11, and the so-called "weapons of mass destruction" and "nuclear materials" used to justify the invasion of Iraq.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago

That ain't a source. That's an appeal to authority fallacy.

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[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seymour Hersh does interviews with China Daily. That’s all I need to know.

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[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I read all the theories. All I can muster is 'oh no, not Russia's pipeline.' Seems like however you cut it, Russia did this to themselves by invading Ukraine. They were kind of on a more decent path towards meaningful integration for a minute. Would have been good for common Russians and everyone else if they'd stayed on that path. But, instead their leadership decided on extreme aggression.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Didn't German and Dutch companies fund Nordstream 2? "Russia's pipeline" indeed.

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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

If America did blow up the pipelines, it would have been a NATO country blowing up critical infrastructure (an act of war) of another NATO country (Germany).

That would, in fact, be a very fucking big deal.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is (or rather was, before America destroyed it) also German infrastructure, it's not just "Russia's pipeline".

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spot the yank. You terrorist scumbags started this war to "weaken Russia" and carried out this sabotage to make sure Europeans were forced to buy your stinking environmentally destructive LPG. It was Russia and Europe's pipeline.

You can't compete in the free market, you can't compete in war with anyone, so all you've got is bullshit like this and terrorist scumbaggery.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, sure, the US started the war by making Russia invade Ukraine. It's amazing how many US spies there are in Russia to be able to make them invade another sovereign country on US's behalf.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh man, the head of NATO has admitted this last week.

You can't still be this uninformed in late 2023? Honestly, where do you get your information from? Reddit? The News?

[–] aport@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Russia: give me what I want or I will invade Ukraine

NATO: no

Russia: you made me do this!!

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[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that's just like saying since a bully beat someone up because the victim didn't hand over their money, so that meant the victim started the fight. Good logic there.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

The victim here are the non-Nazi Ukrainians. The bully is the USA.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can someone get a refill for grandpa's medication?

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