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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 46 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

everyone wants to force you to use apps instead of websites, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of apps are just websites..in a app wrapper, because normal websites and normal browsers have inbuilt protections for you.

Apps don't.

Idiots install apps, give them the 400,000 permissions they ask for, then go on their merry way..ignorant to the fact that they just installed a data vacuum on their phone thats siphoning everything off of it to be used and sold and resold for marketing purposes.. Even the phone itself its not safe, cause its sitting there, listening to your conversations, even when not on a call, to more "Accurately" spam you with bullshit.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I am still using a flip phone. My new goal is to make it to 2027 marking two decades of rejecting the smartphone era. Each time I consider compromising something gets even more awful about smartphones and I double down on saying no.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 100 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Domino@lemmings.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I want a re-made Bonzi buddy with AI.

I don't vouch for these, as I have not used them. But, I found this rewritten one and this one with LLM.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Click to win a FREE LOBSTER Dinner 🦀🦞🦐

Man I miss this era of the internet. It truly felt like a new frontier.

I clicked, but all I got was a dancing stripper and something called Conficker.

[–] techforwhat@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Could you expand on that thought a bit more? How is an app like the internet tool bars of old?

Genuinely curious. I'm a little too young to have experienced internet toolbars like the ones in your image.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I missed that phase because I was using Netscape.

Then you didn't miss it. You glossed over it, like a boss

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 50 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

As I've been making an effort to replace apps with the browser version of the service. It's so abundantly clear that companies don't want you using their website.

Even if they don't outright cripple functionality, they'll hound you endlessly to install the app.

It's infuriating to say the least.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Even if they don’t outright cripple functionality, they’ll hound you endlessly to install the app.

Still don't understand the logic of doing that.

It's like saying,

"Our website is nigh unusable, please install our app instead. We pinky promise our app works".

[–] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's because you have control over your browser, but they control their app and all its trackers, ads, etc

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. They want you to use apps, cause all the permissions you give the app makes it much easier for them to harvest all your data for marketing and selling purposes.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

That's exactly it. Easy to block ads and trackers on a website, but more difficult or impossible on some apps.

One of the banking apps won't show the total balance of the account unless I'm using the app. How ridiculous.

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

So I downloaded the app and learned

  • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
  • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
  • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 hours ago

"It’s the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card?"

it's not a flaw. it's a feature.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Loyalty cards werent a great thing either.

They werent to reward your loyalty, they were to tie your purchase history to an individual, So that information can be used and sold for marketing purposes.

It was basically the prototype for the invasive, information stealing apps we have today.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can't your purchases be tied to you via credit/debit card number? I mean obviously you can use cash, but I don't see a lot of people using cash

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Food Lion (East coast, not sure if they're national) has a fairly good loyalty program. Your loyalty card number on the physical card or in the app are the same, you can load coupons to it so they're applied at checkout if they're relevant, you can use their ordinary website if you don't have/want to use a smart phone app...it's non-cancerous.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My GF laughs because I have no loyalty cards or apps and I laugh that she has one for everything.

Loyalty rewards are bullshit.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

In the US, if you don't have the loyalty card, you're paying more for groceries. For the stores we use, any sale prices are contingent upon using the loyalty card. This can add up to $5-$10 per order.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

Oh the same bullshit is done here with Loblaws. I don't care. They have my info every time I use my credit card at their store that's all they need and it's all they get.

If I have to pay more because they're greedy little fuckpigs so be it.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 11 points 8 hours ago

Early 2000 wants its internet back

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 hours ago

YES full support! I have and am sending this from my smartphone but I'll stop going to your store before I download your stupid fucking app for a free mcflurry or whatever the fuck pisspoor excuse you have for installing malware on my devices.

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