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If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president, it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.

Many of my journalist colleagues have attempted to beat back the tide under banners like “fighting disinformation” and “accountability.” While these efforts are admirable, the past few years have changed my own internal calculus. Thinkers like Jean-Paul Sartre and Hannah Arendt warned us that the point of this deluge is not to persuade, but to overwhelm and paralyze our capacity to act. More recently, researchers have found that the viral outrage disseminated on social media in response to these ridiculous claims actually reduces the effectiveness of collective action. The result is a media environment that keeps us in a state of debilitating fear and anger, endlessly reacting to our oppressors instead of organizing against them.

Cross’ book contains a meticulous catalog of social media sins which many people who follow and care about current events are probably guilty of—myself very much included. She documents how tech platforms encourage us, through their design affordances, to post and seethe and doomscroll into the void, always reacting and never acting.

But perhaps the greatest of these sins is convincing ourselves that posting is a form of political activism, when it is at best a coping mechanism—an individualist solution to problems that can only be solved by collective action. This, says Cross, is the primary way tech platforms atomize and alienate us, creating “a solipsism that says you are the main protagonist in a sea of NPCs.”

In the days since the inauguration, I’ve watched people on Bluesky and Instagram fall into these same old traps. My timeline is full of reactive hot takes and gotchas by people who still seem to think they can quote-dunk their way out of fascism—or who know they can’t, but simply can’t resist taking the bait. The media is more than willing to work up their appetites. Legacy news outlets cynically chase clicks (and ad dollars) by disseminating whatever sensational nonsense those in power are spewing.

This in turn fuels yet another round of online outrage, edgy takes, and screenshots exposing the “hypocrisy” of people who never cared about being seen as hypocrites, because that’s not the point. Even violent fantasies about putting billionaires to the guillotine are rendered inept in these online spaces—just another pressure release valve to harmlessly dissipate our rage instead of compelling ourselves to organize and act.

This is the opposite of what media, social or otherwise, is supposed to do. Of course it’s important to stay informed, and journalists can still provide the valuable information we need to take action. But this process has been short-circuited by tech platforms and a media environment built around seeking reaction for its own sake.

“For most people, social media gives you this sense that unless you care about everything, you care about nothing. You must try to swallow the world while it’s on fire,” said Cross. “But we didn’t evolve to be able to absorb this much info. It makes you devalue the work you can do in your community.”

It’s not that social media is fundamentally evil or bereft of any good qualities. Some of my best post-Twitter moments have been spent goofing around with mutuals on Bluesky, or waxing romantic about the joys of human creativity and art-making in an increasingly AI-infested world. But when it comes to addressing the problems we face, no amount of posting or passive info consumption is going to substitute the hard, unsexy work of organizing.

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[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I am trying to get people I know personally to stop posting and reading and instead begin to focus on the very basics of actual organization, in the form of simply being able to communicate effectively and securely.

I have collected and written up information for them with the consideration that they are non-technical, pertaining to secure and private communications primarily, but also many more potentially useful emergency-scenario information and data which I will not speak about here.

The package I have started giving to my friends contains information such as:

  • How to communicate securely using something like Simplex or I2P
  • How to correctly configure and use a VPN
  • How to flash a security distribution of Linux such as TailsOS to a flash drive and how to boot to it from a computer
  • How to securely encrypt data to a device using an encryption software with hidden volume features such as VeraCrypt
  • A litany of manuals for all kinds of useful information you can use in emergencies, which I will not detail here
  • Files containing the data required to build potentially useful items in emergencies given access to the correct hardware which I will not detail here

I firmly believe that the majority of Americans will not do anything until someone is actually showing up at their door, coming after them in the street, or destroying the regularities of their personal day to day life, so my intention is to distribute materials which they can turn to when the fear sets into them well enough that they are scared to talk about such things openly.

It is clear to me that most of my American friends at least, at this point, still only feel superficial fear and outrage. The other day I asked them "If you had to vandalize a public space with a piece of art, what would you draw or paint? Let's say it is the side of a bank".

One said "tits", one said "flowers", one said "a fox".

Even in a fantasy, they would not express fear or outrage in a public setting.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is signal not good enough or something? I basically switched to signal.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

It's good, but it's centralized. Let's say an authoritarian regime shuts down the central Signal servers. Then what?

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The revoltion will not be televised - Gill Scott Heron

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Even people agreeing with this are wary of any revolution which is not in some way being televised. And more trusting to television than to what they can see with their own eyes.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I feel personally attacked, I agree with the article, but painfully so.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

100000000% agree

[–] Kryptenx@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

LF leftists in Kansas. Assemble

[–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

They're dozens of us.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 77 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

I can't upvote this strongly enough. Social media is doing everything in the establishment's favor - especially ingraining the habit of glancing at a news item and making an instant value judgement with minimal thought before scrolling along to the next item. It's not just that endless scrolling and venting take time away from real action, it's the encouragement of superficial thinking. People who get all their info from memes are solid gold to con men like Trump who depend on triggering stupid conclusions. They got conservatives to worship him by not thinking too much, and they can do the same to liberals.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Social media is doing everything in the establishment’s favor

For about half a second, people used social media to organize. Then the fascists saw how to manipulate and control it, and jumped at the opportunity. At this point social media -- especially billionaire controlled social media -- is just part of the fascist apparatus.

To a lesser extent, as this article talks about, the coping mechanism of posting through better platforms allows you to vent enough to prevent you from having the discomfort necessary to actually do anything. It's not nearly as harmful, but it's not good either.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Why read the article (especially if there's a paywall) when you can read - or even better make - the comments? 😜

Seriously, if the goal is that sweet sweet dopamine fix, then this is the most efficient means to achieve that end...

Thinking is hard, hence just don't do it! Better yet, downvote those who do as being "pretentious".

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It's far easier to talk ~~rather than listen~~ over others.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

They have done the same to liberals, just in a different way. Why do the harder thing when the easier thing is just as good? Most liberals already believe bullshit just as convenient for Trump.

How you support or not support an idea is not less important than what is that idea.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 39 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I agree.

"Planet's burning up, another genocide, fascism on the rise... ugh... where are the funny memes."

Apathy is the greatest tool of the oppressor.

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[–] Toribor@corndog.social 17 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

After working with computer software most of my life I've come to understand that if success relies on people 'paying attention to something, making an informed decision and then performing an action' that it is nearly impossible to get the desired outcome more than half the time.

We're so fucked.

Also in that field, but… I think you have to acknowledge that being, usually, in your example 1) at work and 2) on a computer, make people that much less interested in giving a shit. Compare to various systems people use in their free time, and you probably see that people are pretty good at attending to the things they think matter.

Capitalism, or, at the very very least, unfettered capitalism, are the real problem, not people writ large.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. After 30 years working in IT for various companies from 40 employees to 300,000 employees, I believe about 70-80% of the corporate work force has an elementary school level of reading comprehension at best.

In the last 10 years of my career I stopped writing emails with more than 1 question, because otherwise most people would reply and only answer the first thing I asked (often poorly), ignoring the entire rest of the email.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago

I mean 54% read at or below a 6th grade level, so that makes sense. Almost a fifth to a half of adult Americans are functionally illiterate depending on how you define it.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

literally just don't doomscroll, go read my recent post over in eudaimonia.

You literally just don't have to do it lmao.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

I’m afraid you can’t vote or protest your way out of fascism. Only way out is to shoot.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

You are correct. These people won't be stopped with words or rational arguments. They are past the point of being able to cooperate. We will be killing each other before long. Sorry to say, but if you don't have the tools and skills to do that, you might want to learn. Or be prepared to be owned or killed by those that do. Adolph Musk and crew want to OWN you or DESTROY you depending on how you look. Start preparing for what that means.

I fucking hate that it's coming to this, but without a major change of direction (that I see no evidence of yet) that's where this ends up. The red menace was in our own country the whole time.

I am an infantry veteran and I will be fighting on the correct side of history until I can't anymore. I do wonder how many of my fellow comrades I might come into conflict with once this all kicks off.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Except you won't, because you are already coping on Lemmy

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on lemmy. Just got back from working with firearms at my camp today.

Turns out some mags need oiled, a dead scope battery (no extras on hand!), new shotgun strikes light, need to adjust the trigger pull (again), new 10-round AR mags are a dream, not sure about the red-dot, but it puts steel on target as far as I'm able to shoot.

As always my Colt 1911 Government Model is flawless with every mag. Compact Ruger 9mm fired flawlessly, hard to aim a 2.75" barrel. About my crappiest gun, the Taurus Spectrum, actually ran perfectly. Weirder things have happened. (It always runs perfectly, just jams on the last round, every time.)

Rotated out some old ammo, had more than I thought! Guess I was being extra conservative on holding. :)

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 minutes ago

Is this some copypasta? :D

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

For sure. This is all hypothetical. No real threats of violence here.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 77 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (6 children)

I suspect the vast majority of people turning to social media as a pressure release valve feel disempowered, and don't know what more they can reasonably do. When voting is no longer enough, and you have little time or money to spare, what's next? How can a fly meaningfully change the path of a rhino stampede?

This article is insightful, but practically useless. I think it would be better if it also presented specific actions and achievable goals that would lead to shutting down the encroaching fascism.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 35 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

People need to know that posting doesn't actually do anything!

posts an article about it

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 54 points 14 hours ago (18 children)

TLDR - We need more Luigis against the techbros

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 138 points 16 hours ago (37 children)

The greatest thing that social media ever did for humanity was in its ability to allow all of us to talk to each other in an open platform.

Those private corporate platforms have slowly been eroded and controlled to only waste our time and designed to keep us all angry, afraid, anxious and confused.

Open decentralized social media is bringing us back to that era 20 years ago when social media was just starting and people just talked and openly discussed the issues of the day with one another. It doesn't matter what kind of platform we have or can create, as long as it is decentralized and controlled by people, everyone will always find value in it because it allows us to talk to one another. The greatest thing I've ever found in taking part in the fediverse was in connecting to like minded people who want to talk about the important issues of the day without all the distractions of advertising and without having having to give up my privacy or security and have my identity sold to the highest bidder.

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