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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has frequently brought up Ukraine's rare earth minerals as a reason to continue fueling the proxy war.

"This war is about money. People don't talk much about it. But you know, the richest country in all of Europe for rare earth minerals is Ukraine. Two to seven trillion dollars' worth of minerals that are rare earth minerals, very relevant to the 21st century," Graham told Fox News host Sean Hannity in November. "Ukraine's ready to do a deal with us, not the Russians. So it's in our interest to make sure that Russia doesn't take over the place."

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

once again saying the quiet part out loud

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 8 points 12 hours ago

Always figured it would end that way.

[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Commentators here seem to be missing the main point - Trump is simply responding positively to Zelensky's offer.

Proof: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/04/ukraine-trump-rare-earth-minerals/ => https://archive.ph/LXP0J

Ukraine previously offered U.S. access to its rare earth minerals in an effort to keep the Trump administration engaged in supporting the country militarily in its fight with Russia.

World history knows many battles fought for independence, but the last 10 years of Ukraine's history represent a unique example of a ruthless struggle to become a colony.

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago

I actually think this is more an attempt to exploit Trump's worldview; he's well-known to view inter-state relationships as purely transactional, and from that lens it seems like a good deal.

Thing is, depending on how the war goes either Russia or the US will take everything they possibly can from Ukraine; it may well be that offering Trump something the US was probably going to try to take anyway is just about the smartest way to turn somebody who was initially hostile to continued aid into someone personally invested in the outcome.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

Commentators here seem to be missing the main point - Trump is simply responding positively to Zelensky’s offer.

I'm not sure I understand why you think that's the 'main' point, it sounds like you mean this was all at Ukraine's initiative. But I think the real story is that it has traction because, well, you need two sides to make a deal, and the game changer is Trump's affirmative interest, which escalates this from offer to mutual interest.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Zelensky was an American plant from 2014. This would be America responding to America's offer.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Not at all a new one. It's been going around since the 2014 color revolution and coup.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

I knew he was named in the Panama Papers for having a stash offshore but I hadn’t heard of the US connection.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago

last 10 years of Ukraine's history represent a unique example of a ruthless struggle to become a colony.

More like a ruthless struggle to break up with one colonizer in favor of a new one.

There's a reason more than half the oligarchs fled to Russia at the onset of the war.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 36 points 1 day ago

it is always about the grift

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

So. All Putin has to do is say. "Don't send any weapons to Ukraine and when we win, Russia will give you their rare minerals", and Trump will roll over like a dog begging for a treat. Not that Trump ever knew right from wrong...

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Well at least the US is finally honest about why it's helping the Nazis.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

liyunxiao

Fellow xianxia enjoyer?

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well recognized! And yes. Compared to a lot of story types that try to avoid Mary sues, it's nice to just give in occasionally. 这一世我要当至尊 is pretty fun overall, even if it gets a bit too DBZ levels of ridiculous in terms of strict power scaling definitions that it immediately ignores anyway.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yeah i like the genre because it's an unashamed epic power trips. I blame the western fantasy which degenerated to shitty gritty dark low fantasy and/or pointless strings of long action scenes and keeps at it for over 30 years.

Btw i recognized the nickname because i currently read the Eternal Supreme :)

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Citations needed, comrade.

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Azov brigade and the long history of Ukrainians enthusiastically helping the Nazis in WWII, both are on wikipedia, citing western sources.

We shouldn't help Russia either, given they're just as bad these days, but treating one better than the other is categorically insane... Unless one is willing to sign over pretty much all their mineral and agriculture rights to us companies.

[–] Frodo@startrek.website 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Azov is bad, but they aren’t Ukraine as a whole. Their leader is Jewish! As for WWII, you got to be joking. That was 80 years ago.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Zelensky is a Zionist. So he checks the Nazi box too.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

US like israel, ukraine want US continued support, why would zelensky talk bad about Israel when doing so would anger the US?

Seems pretty straightforward to me why he would be buddies with them.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Even that makes sense... he wants to have basically unlimited US support. It's still the same thing as before

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago

And as Russia is ingrained with Wagner, Rusich etc. does that also declare Putin fascist, with the invasion being fascist infighting?

[–] abfarid@startrek.website -2 points 1 day ago

I was confused about the amount of upvotes, until I saw this was on .ml

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago
[–] Questy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

America is the enemy. Smaller states need to work closely together to resist the wanker states like Russia, America, and China.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

If you aren't Russia, China, USA or (to a lesser extent) Iran. Your only choice is which sphere of influence you want to fall under.

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Just America